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[tidbit]

Taking my pc apart to change the power supply. first time doing this (taking it out to send it in for the warranty replacement). all those dang plugs are freaking stubborn and tough! I'll also have to take out my graphics card because it's pinning down some cords down that I can't slip from underneath :'(.

And I just finished a script before my desktop went haywire. and since I'm in the process of trying to get my winXP working again on my laptop, I can't do some final tests before pasting it! rawr.

edit: hmm. why don't attached images have small thumbnails?

[tomoe_uehara]

Hmm it'll need additional device, can we do it without any tool?

Wew.. You have 4 dust collectors installed on your CPU?

[tidbit]

no idea about dust collectors I'm not a hardware person.
I'm hoping I can just unscrew the GFX card and lift it a little bit so I can get the cords out. hope nothing needs unplugging. I see a couple screws so it /should/ be simple. But that's what I thought about the PSU. it's like everything was glued in. not a fun first experience so far. hope I didn't break anything.

and sorry for the bad image. my tripod can't go up high enough to take a picture of it on the desk. shaky hand cam (+ resize and crop)

[VxE]

Stubborn connectors are the bane of many novice 'puter builders. Here's a tip: gently wiggling the plug back and forth while applying steady force might be a slower way to get a plug out, but is much safer than yanking with all your might or prying out the plug with some other object.

And there is a danger that static electricity will fry your RAM (a costly error if you fry your graphics card's RAM). Either don't build up a static charge, or keep your case/self grounded while you work with the devices.

[rbrtryn]

You have 4 dust collectors installed on your CPU?

@tidbit - I think this is in reference to the four fans installed in the case

[tidbit]

I actually have ~9 fans maybe 10 if the PSU has one. It's not even that loud. This was a built-to-order pc. $15 for "maximum case fans".
2 top
2 side
1 cpu
1 gfx card
1 front
1 back
1 bottom

aaaaand, failure to remove PSU.
according to all the videos and guides I looked up, there should only be a few plugs. around 5. but it seems mine is still snagging on stuff and we have atleast 8 plugs out. we cannot see where there other wires that are snagging go to. woo. $850 mess of wires and broken crap.

Note to self (and others): CyberPower has crappy quality parts and build quality.

[VxE]

What do you mean "snagging on stuff"? Is it the wires coming out of the PSU that are stuck somewhere in the case? Is the PSU itself hung up on something (like that bottom fan)? The thing got in there somehow, so it can definitely come out without destroying the case.


I have my own beef with cyberpower. Their batter backups (you know, the things you plug sensitive equipment into so it won't die if the power goes out for a few seconds) will kill downstream power, without warning, when their internal battery gets old. APC brand backups will make a ruckus when their batteries get old, but they won't just quit the way cyberpower's do.

[Eedis]

That is one of the strangest cases I've seen. I can tell it's an ATX motherboard, but I've never seen the PSU at the bottom like that.

Also, PSU's usually have some kind of plastic 'slide' or something that holds them in place even with all the screws out. Try looking for a plastic lever or something to unlock it and also try to see if it's sitting in some kind of slide out our flip out tray type mechanism.... If that made any sense.

[tidbit]

the wires coming out of the PSU that are stuck somewhere in the case.
I can get the PSU outside the case, it is unhooked from the bottom. but when I pull it, the wires/cords/plugs get stuck, somewhere.

Also, the case is a "BLACK COOLERMASTER ELITE 431". cheapest available on the site I used looks half decent aswell (I didn't want a gamer case). I found it weird the PSU was at the bottom too. seems less dangerous IMO. not a huge weight dangling above everything.

But, meh. I'm going to attempt to plug it all in again and give it a try. get some more numbers and info. Someone on #ahk (irc) gave me some info saying my issue might not be my PSU, but some other thing. or something like that.

This is my second pc from CyberPower (my previous one was systemax and it was very good. The one before that was CP). The last CP pc also had a PSU issue. we had it professionally replaced for like $200, about 6-8 years ago. No issues after the replacement. what a rip-off.

[Eedis]

Out of curiosity, what is the issue you're having? Just boot problems?

[dmg]

...we had it professionally replaced for like $200...

Yikes! In my experience a power supply costs between $30 $80, and takes about a half hour to install. Charging $200 to replace one is robbery. :shock:

[VxE]

the wires coming out of the PSU that are stuck somewhere in the case.
I can get the PSU outside the case, it is unhooked from the bottom. but when I pull it, the wires/cords/plugs get stuck, somewhere.

Have you taken the back panel off the case? Once both panels are off, there really shouldn't be anywhere for snaggy plugs to hide.

If it comes to it, and you're sure the PSU is dead/dying, you can sever the snagged wires with tin snips and leave the plugs wherever they're lodged. Then pop in the new unit, plug it in and put the case back together.

[tomoe_uehara]

/me brings a defibrilator unit for tidbit's PSU.

[tidbit]

Not really any boot problems. though, occasionally it didbootup or shutdown by itself at random.

but I got 4 bsod's in about an hour. then my cd drive didn't work. I asked some people and they said it could be the PSU and no (or not enough) power was getting to it.
These are the image:
2 older bsod's. apparently the ones I had did not get logged... <!-- m -->http://img1.uploadsc... ... 8-orig.png<!-- m -->
some voltages and other numbers: <!-- m -->http://img1.uploadsc... ... 3-orig.png<!-- m -->

after I should a couple other people these images, they said it could be a PSU issue. while a couple others said it might not be, but some other
hardware that might have died, or become loose/disconnected.