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[Eedis]

Today, I was walking outside with my 'almost 3 year old' daughter to the car. There were a small group of children (ages 6-16ish, so it looked like) playing not to far away from where I was parked. While I was getting into my car, this 8 year old kid (only an assumption, but he was pretty young) walked up to another little boy around the same age, pointed an extremely realistic toy handgun straight into the little boy's face and shouted, "You're going to get shot mother-f***er!"

I was absolutely appalled. I actually shouted "Oh my god!" and didn't even mean to. I cannot believe that this little boy did this. How are their parents raising these kids? That's disgusting. I wish I knew which apartment he lived in and who his parents were.

I just ran to the gas station with my daughter real quick and returned very shortly, the small group of children were still playing. As I was parking, my window was down, I noticed the older boy (around 16) walked up to another little boy with the same toy gun, pointed it at him and said "I'll shoot you!" Now I know where the younger boy is getting it from. Please... I am telling as many people as I can about this because I simply can't believe the direction that this generation is heading. I thrive to raise my daughter right and I absolutely do not want her being raised in a generation like this.

Please, raise your children and pay close attention to them, love them, take pride in them, and DON'T GIVE UP ON THEM! Your children are the FUTURE of our race! I hope one day to meet these kids parents. This is not the only thing I've noticed, they are extremely disruptive of the apartments property. The other day I saw they intentionally breaking the sprinkler systems and spraying them at parked cars.

[VxE]

Your advice is one or two generations too late. I know hindsight is 20/20, but common sense didn't disappear overnight. Children learn how to be parents from their parents*, but of course, choice and lifestyle play a roll too.

All it takes is one generation that chooses not to pass on traditional values to their kids, then you end up with brats who produce more brats because they were never taught how to raise a child in the first place. And so on...

(*) 'parent' here is a generic term for whichever figure(s) a child is most exposed to, be it a father and mother or Bevis & Butthead.

[Morpheus]

Is this problem world wide, or just in the U.S.?

[tank]

listen When i was a kid we played with bb guns and 22's we never dreamed of firing on each other. well there was this one time when a bb gun went of on the couch but thats a totally different kind of stupid. No one lost an eye and none of us shot up the school.

I recently had my neices so called gangsta bfriend over and he wanted to kill a chicken.. I showed him how and he finally did it but it nearly took him out.... I had killed many animals to eat when i was younger. We protect them way to hard when they are young. we tell them thier uncle that jumped off a building fell we tell them lie after lie about death. and when given a chance to make the right choice about life and death they lie to themselves. Kids in my experience can handle the truth and a little carnage when they are very young. it scars them but they understand the gravity a bit better. some are just f'd up and there was never anything we could do about ted bundy. My advice is stop lying to them about the serious things. there is nothing wrong with telling them chicken little is whats for dinner. or that frank didnt care about himself or anyone else so he jumped off a bridge and really hurt grandma bad when he did it. They need to learn early that there is no do over for certain things. and that what any of us do can cause very real pain.


But you know the real key?
let them go with you have them help cook dinner. whatever your doing even if its dangerous. they will mimic the kind of respect you show things and learn from it. Kids just want thier parents to do things with them anything... even if it isnt play. I sure busted alot of knuckles and hurt myself alot. but i loved nothing more than helping dad work on a car. My own daughter i have discovered takes those opportunities to talk to me about everything. wow non playtime = talk time. it just comes out i dont even have to ask
I learned about a bully trouble sleeping her new best friend. the bruise on the girl in class. its like having dr phil on your couch making your kid talk to you. and i have an extra pair of small hands for the work on the house i am doing.

[fred]

Years ago i did see small boys playing soccer in my street, they used more bad language then i use in 10 years.

I have new neighbours above me, can't be much older then 20, the previous one were 90 years old, deaf and active but i never did hear them, the new i can already hear before i get inside...
Sometimes i just go outside to hear some quiet.

This is the age of being loud and selfish and not care for others...

I think i'm getting old

[Eedis]

I agree with you tank. My daughter is not sheltered from things and my wife freaks out with the things I let her do. I was raised the same way with my dad. All I am saying is, these parents aren't paying any attention to their children if they are saying and doing things like this. If I saw my daughter do that, my god, she would be grounded for life. If any parent saw their child do that and was the one who willingly taught them that in the first place, they are not a parent and are one disgusting individual. You are if you think a young child doing that is acceptable.

Not too long ago, my wife saw a picture on a girls facebook page whom we used to go to high school with. The picture was of some male, holding her NEWBORN baby in his hand with a REAL handgun in the babies lap and holding up a gang sign. It struck my wife and I and we reported it to facebook. Call us over reacting but in my opinion, she should face criminal charges for that. Its horrible knowing parents intentionally raise their children to be monsters. It only makes me love and cherish my daughter more and take pride in everything she does.

[jethrow]

Raise your kids right!

Do I have to ask - in whose opinion of right? What is the source of right, what is the source of morals? Why not just call the problem out in it's overall scope: remove the true source of righteousness, & morallity goes with it ... and it will amplify through the generations if not fixed.

[tank]

we must use care in judging others. that very picture you described may not indicate anything other than bad choices in photography. For all thats is known they may preach proper gune education to that child for its entire life. While i am personally against guns in a home. When a child is raised in an environment that they know the finality of life and death as well ashow to properly handle weapons they may in manyways be safer with them than without. there is a mix of life experience that necesarily alters what is appropriate. its back to the ethics question of the fat guy on the bridge. our perceptionof when something is appropriate and a matter of survival differs based on our life experience. we may better avoid inserting our base life on others to judge thier choices.
I do think however its perfectly good to say for my family this is/not ok

[Wingfat]

I agree Eedis.. i see how kids around our kids age act. (my boy just turned 3) I have a co-worker hows girl is now 3 as well. her kid, like her.. is mean. The kid bites, kicks and from what i hear takes peoples cells phones aways and tosses them to the other side of the room when you get close. Her mom is mean and stand-offish at work.. you know the ones that dont say hi back to you when you say good morning. She will not talk to me unless she has a computer issue and needs help. had the nerve to ask me one time for Microsoft Office for her home PC.. lol
But I see how her kid is, it is becuase of her and her boyfriend and how they raise this girl in the ghetto where they live.

  Monkey See Monkey Do.. 

goes very far with kids

[dmg]

Yep. I am firmly convinced that our civilization is rotting from the inside. The causes may be debatable, but anyone who denies the truth of it is a fool.

"Many clever men like you have trusted to civilization. Many clever Babylonians, many clever Egyptians, many clever men at the end of Rome. Can you tell me, in a world that is flagrant with the failures of civilisation, what there is particularly immortal about yours?"
~G. K. Chesterton

[Wingfat]

The causes may be debatable...

hehehe.. lets debate that now.
I say it is the fault of Reality TV and Celebrities
like i just said. Monkey see, Mokey Do
in the 50s TV shows hinted on domestic Violence, and there was a lot more reports at that time of men hitting their wifes.
now you got shows where dumb people are famous because they sleep with people on camera, so people will be dumb and make videos in hopes of being famous too.
but all goes to how your parents raised you and how you are going to decide if your going to learn from their mistakes or just repeat them.
my 3yo reads better than some high school kids I bet.. now is that the school or the parents fault? i say parents becasue my kid really hasnt been to any school and only knows what Mom and I teach him.

[Eedis]

Wingfat, I honestly think that television and celebrities do in fact have a part to play in it, but it's a very small part. Kids only take from it what their parents allow them to take from it. As you were saying, I believe it is solely parenting faults if the children are raised disruptively (aside from the special kids who have a disability and can't help it). As I was a kid, I've seen stupidity on television, reality tv shows, celebrities get famous because of their nudity and sex tapes, every time I saw this I only thought they were stupid and strive harder to be less like them... Why did I think this as a child? Because my parents raised me with manners and discipline. And for that, I couldn't love them more.

[Wingfat]

Honeymooners wasnt the only one.. even I love Lucy had it
•In I Love Lucy, Ricky Ricardo repeatedly turned Lucy over his knee and spanked her like a child after a particularly harebrained scheme. May count as Values Dissonance to modern audiences since at the time it was meant to be seen as funny.

-ohh last night my 3yo boy saw me getting water for my wife. I walked in the other room to give it to her and came back to check on the PC in the kitchen and get some water for me and he was walking up to give me a cup of water he poured! how cute.