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PostPosted: June 21st, 2008, 1:21 am 
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bleh fire fox

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or you could abandon firefox and use my script library in ie

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tank wrote:
or you could abandon firefox and use my script library in ie
NO! F*** IE.

The best way is to use cURL to automate POST/GET form data. You can run though command line or DLL, it's instant and doesn't require a browser or mouse/keyboard sends.


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so blinded by what you have ben TOLD to think its funny
so oberon you say use cURL it is indeed a fascinating tool but im curious
How will the user if they need to parse the screen data that is the result

To my knowledge cURL doesnt offer such functionality please prove me wrong

second im dying for someone to show me that firefox is capable of something that IE isnt
i havent found anything yet
the only thng firefox has an advantage on is better default settings
so sorry i refuse to base my usage descision on my ignorance of the tool im using
also there are still sites out there that do not render correctly in firefox

really do calm down its this kind if histerical logic that gets people to go to war on ill founded facts

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tank wrote:
How will the user if they need to parse the screen data that is the result

To my knowledge cURL doesnt offer such functionality please prove me wrong
That doesn't make much sense (is English not your native language?). It's very easy to extrapolate form/result structures by looking at the HTML source code or using various tools such as Webdeveloper or Firebug for Ajax sites - even 12 year old kids now know how to make HTML designs for their myspace etc. curl has extensive capabilities, did you even read the documentation before you put forward that argument or are you just accustomed to talking hot air.

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so blinded by what you have ben TOLD to think its funny
Have you ever used CSS3, javascript DOM or alpha channel pngs which the MSIE family fails to support? To this day IE8 can not pass ACID2 which is hosted on a site other than the official one. This frustrates ME as a casual web programmer and for some reason, millions of others as well. There is overwhelming support for Firefox not only among programmers but also general users. I installed ff for my sister and she loved it. Corporate organizations have begun to deploy rebranded ff browsers for their employees instead of IE since v2. Btw I'm not a ff fanboy, Opera is far ahead on mobile devices and webkit engine is superior for embedding. You've just been sucked in by microsoft propaganda and I think its disgusting that you have to advertise for them on the sly. Blinded? Slightly ironic.


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ACID2 a strange test that doesnt support the mainstream development standard
CSS3 not the standard yet
IE8 not even reloeased yet
and y6our very mis informed
http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_stats.asp
Browser Statistics Month by Month
2008 IE7 IE6 IE5 Fx Moz S O
May 26.5% 27.3% 0.7% 39.8% 0.7% 2.4% 1.5%
April 24.9% 28.9% 1.0% 39.1% 0.9% 2.2% 1.4%
March 23.3% 29.5% 1.1% 37.0% 1.1% 2.1% 1.4%
February 22.7% 30.7% 1.3% 36.5% 1.2% 2.0% 1.4%
January 21.2% 32.0% 1.5% 36.4% 1.3% 1.9% 1.4%
IE makes up nearly 2/3rds of the users

and the very few obscure CSS2 items not supported by ie that are by firefox are simply not used b ut 99 % of programmers any how
and really have little real use
unless you can explain a good use for max-height
any how its obvious your in for following fan fair and not facts so good luck in your endeavors
dont bother responding to me i dont carte about your oppinion
the origional poster has bettter things to do than watch you and i go on and on about your rebelious views of the way things are

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tank, it's not useful to flame someone for using firefox. I happen to use firefox because it has useful plugins that let me browse the web the way i want to. IE also has plugins and add-ons, but they are not what i want to use. I mostly use firefox because it is open source, which means that the code has been reviewed by a larger community of people. It also tends to be more standards-compliant. I rarely see any website that firefox doesn't load correctly. Of thoe, most are broken because they are not standards compliant and have some hack to make the site work in IE.

One of the nice things is that people can use any browser they wish. my wife will not use firefox because IE works more the way she wants.

Also, it is worth your time to try firefox 3. they made some nice improvements. It is like me reading stories about McCain. I know I will never vote for him, but I make sure i hear both arguments so that I know why I am not voting for him. Same for browsers. I use IE occasionally for some tasks, and always use the one that is more appropriate to the task I am doing.

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tank wrote:
ACID2 a strange test that doesnt support the mainstream development standard
LOL. You don't know what it is. ACID2 is a test for the well established CSS1/2 profiles that have existed for a decade. It exposes any bugs browsers have with rendering according to the standards. Under international antitrust laws Microsoft must follow these rules to keep the web interoperable with all software.

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% 0.7% 39.8% 0.7% 2.4% 1.5%
April 24.9% 28.9% 1.0% 39.1% 0.9% 2.2% 1.4%
You've just demonstrated the pinnacle of your computer abilities by coping and pasting, gratz.

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unless you can explain a good use for max-height
Can you explain a good use for AutoHotkey, Windows or even a mouse/keyboard?

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dont bother responding to me i dont carte about your oppinion
Frankly I couldn't care less about you either - I don't know you and I haven't used any of your scripts. It was shameless to advertise your IE products to somebody who requested help for a Firefox issue. That's just as helpful as telling someone to use AutoIt or shouting "RTFM" without giving any links or directions. As enguneer said this behavior known as flaming on the internet and members of this forum will not tolerate it.


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PostPosted: June 22nd, 2008, 2:35 pm 
I'm happy to see there's more then one browser available.

In general I'd prefer FF for its open source concept and dislike IE as 'OS-embedded-by-default-concept-to-ged-rid-of-any-competition'-marketing.

Nevertheless, I've to work with IE at the office and therefore like to get that browser supported with AHK as well.

Thanks to anyone of this community for the support they provide to get the best out of their favourite browser, regardless which one they prefer. 8)


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@tank Finally someone whos likes IE like me.


POWER TO IE!


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I used to use only IE, no more. IE is evil.


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PostPosted: June 22nd, 2008, 9:16 pm 
I just use UrlDownloadToFile and save to a text file, then use Wordpad to find words I like from the web pages.

Beats waiting on Dreamweaver+Paint Shop bloated web pages to load and I get to see parts of the pages the original author didn't even see.

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sorry, I forgot to mention that I split the posts above mine from another topic, where they were only going to hijack that thread.

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tank wrote:
second im dying for someone to show me that firefox is capable of something that IE isnt

I'm sure you can find several hundred things here. One of my favorites, Greasemonkey, injects javascript into pages you are viewing. For example, on youtube, I have it set up so that it will insert a download button underneath the number of views.

Edit: Just thought I might add in that firefox is also capable of running on linux, IE (sadly) is not

Edit2: Try actually looking at those browser statistics you posted, IE is on a nice steady down trend, while firefox is going up
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IE (averages)
72.80 in '05
54.52 in '08 (so far)
DOWN 18.28%

Firefox (averages)
19.65 in '05
37.76 in '08 (so far)
UP 25.94%


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