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PostPosted: March 22nd, 2009, 1:45 am 
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Contrary to most people nowadays, I always prefer things that work to those that look nice but do nothing. 8) That... "W" thing may look fabulous with all that pile o' skins and visual effects, but it won't even install on my system so from where I'm standing it's a useless POC. ;)

On playlists: I tend to keep all tracks in one playlist, for convenience, but I also tend to group certain tracks together, depending on mood. Groups are usually the same but at times sorting may differ.
In this regard, drag'n'drop would greatly improve sorting/grouping, since now it's either "listen'em as they were loaded" or "random pick".

Today I've stumbled into a minor hotkey issue. Wanted to add volume hotkeys, for convenience and accidentally added them as Global instead of Local. After searching for the 'Remove hotkey' button (hint-hint ;) ), I right-clicked'em and got an error saying 'hotkey is in use'. After closing options panel and reopening, I was able to remove the hotkeys and readd them as Local.

However, since I had added Up and Down for volume, the same keys were used for playlist navigation and the listview killed the volume functions. So maybe some keys should be excluded from definitions when the default controls that use them can't be overridden.

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PostPosted: March 26th, 2009, 1:55 pm 
Just FYI: The BassVideo lib is coming along nicely.

Working so far (tested in PlayFile.exe): most wmv and asf files
Not working so far: (compressed) avi and others

Test files from: http://streams.videolan.org/streams-videolan/

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PostPosted: March 26th, 2009, 8:20 pm 
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Feature request: sound fade in/out on Pause.

Today I had to pause/continue tracks a few times. With headphones on, picking up the track from where it was left, at loud volume, is not nice at all, cross my heart. A timeline of about 3-3.5 seconds for the fading would be enough for ear adaptation to the sound volume.

My standalone CD player has such function and I found it extremely pleasant to use. The Trout implementation could take into account the volume level at which fading should automatically be enabled.

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Along the same lines as Drugwash's "Feature request: sound fade in/out on Pause"... What about cross-fading between tracks?

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Now you're getting greedy... :P

Forgot one thing I've been dying to ask: is track cache on? I mean, is the whole track loaded in memory before playback or is it being read directly from the drive? AFAIK, that "W" player has an option to "cache tracks shorter than [_____]" (that is, configurable size) and it yields pretty good results.

My reason to ask is that I'm having huge problems when download exceeds certain speed and... dunno... certain network buffer or something gets overloaded or bottlenecked; when that happens, sound and video start stuttering and only a system reboot can fix this issue. Track cache - from past experience - seemed to considerably reduce that effect.

If such feature is not present, please take it as (yet another) feature request, if possible. And apologies for being such a pain. :oops:

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Apologies for the lack of replies over the past few days; I've been playing in a hockey tournament all weekend. Five games in three days...woohoo.

@Drugwash/SoggyDog: I've added both of your requests to my list. Thanks.

@Drugwash: I added a delete hotkey button to the Options dialog and I'll look into that bug you've described as well.


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I haven't posted the build notes on this forum lately. Here they are:

Code:
v1.0.2 build 251
    + Added an option to autopause after "x" minutes of user idle time.  [Thanks, app103]
    + Added a delete hotkey button to the hotkey options dialog.  [Thanks, drugwash]
    + Added an option to allow single or double-clicking the tray icon to bring the main
      window to the front.  Tools, Optoins, General, System tray section.  [Thanks, brotherS]

v1.0.2 build 245
    ! "Do not show toaster popup while main window is active" wasn't saving properly.
      [Thanks, Deozaan]
    ! Ampersands were not displaying properly in the Toaster popup.  [Thanks, Deozaan]
    ! Double-clicking the album art launched it twice.  [Thanks, Hezzu]

v1.0.2 build 236
    + Added "Enable/disable Last.fm" to the playlist's Last.fm context menu.
    + Added Last.fm icon to the statusbar.  Single-clicking on it will toggle between a red
      icon (Last.fm enabled) and a grey icon (Last.fm disabled).  Right-clicking it will
      bring up the same Last.fm menu as above.
    + Added an option for a configurable number of seconds to rewind when resuming from
      a pause state.  Leave it set at zero (0) to turn it off.  [Thanks, brotherS]

v1.0.2 build 220
    + When the minibars have focus, the wheelmouse will control volume.  [Thanks, Deozaan]
    + Double-clicking the album art now brings it up in your system's default viewer.
      [Thanks, none exist]
    + Added "Show toaster popup after resuming from a pause state" option under Options,
      Toaster dialog.  [Thanks, Deozaan]
    * Changed up the album art logic slightly to better handle newly added folder.jpg files.
      [Thanks, drugwash]
    * Rearranged the Options, General dialog to accomodate future settings.
    * The Last.fm "Love Track" button is now an option under the Options, Last.fm dialog.
      [Thanks, Deozaan]
    ! Fixed Trout's alt-tab icon to use the proper size.  [Thanks, lanux128]
    ! Fixed (hopefully) the tracks-playing-out-of-order issue.  [Thanks, drugwash]
    ! Fixed a tray icon issue where it wouldn't show if the user didn't have "Always show
      tray icon" checked but DID have "Minimize to tray on startup" checked.  [Thanks, Deozaan]

v1.0.2 build 211
    + Made it so the numpad's delete key will work like the regular delete key.  [Thanks, mouser]
    + Added handling for media keys on Logitech keyboards (Play/pause, Stop, Next,
      Prev, Vol up/down).  [Thanks, mouser]
    + Added "Enable media keys by default" option to the Options, Hotkeys dialog.
    ! Fixed an HTML decoding issue on WPL files.  [Thanks, app103]
    ! Fixed a TR/TE display issue with the toaster popup.  [Thanks, Deozaan]
    ! Fixed a sizing issue when restoring from the tray/minibar if "Minimize on startup"
      was checked.  [Thanks, Deozaan]

v1.0.2 build 196
    + Loading a data CD with the "Load audio CD" menu entry will now add those files to the
      list.  [Thanks, daonlyfreez]
    + Added "Show toaster popup" as a hotkeyable item.  [Thanks, k3ph]
    * Changed the "Explore here" menu option to "Open file location".  [Thanks, alooper21]


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PostPosted: March 30th, 2009, 1:11 am 
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Thank you!
I hope you're still in one piece after all those games, with not too many bumps and bruises. :D

Today I noticed a small bug:
- insert an audio CD
- go to File > Add file
- select *.cda in the dropdown
- select any track from the audio CD other than Track 01
- play the selected track

Result: it will always play the first track (Track 01) instead of the chosen one. :roll:

Good luck with the to-do and bug hunting and have a great week ahead! ;)

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PostPosted: March 30th, 2009, 12:46 pm 
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Thanks for the updates!

Streaming audio stations in the playlist gives some troubles though. The values get updated with the tag info, which is not always available, or changes (reflects in the playlist). If I add those stations, I get a long list of random and empty items, and I have to use the search to look for words in the showing items, because the fields get randomly updated.

Could you look at creating some sort of consistancy for this?

Kudos!

(In case you didn't notice: a bassvideo preliminary library is available from k3ph)

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daonlyfreez wrote:
Thanks for the updates!

Streaming audio stations in the playlist gives some troubles though.
[...]
Could you look at creating some sort of consistancy for this?

You're welcome and I whole-heartedly agree that the streaming stuff needs a bit of work. The problem, as you've seen, is that not all stations have streaming tags. Would you please PM me some of the URLs that you listen to so I can see what can be done?

daonlyfreez wrote:
(In case you didn't notice: a bassvideo preliminary library is available from k3ph)
8)

Yep, again though, video in Trout is a ways off (if ever). There's already enough half-assed stuff in Trout and I'd rather not half-ass something like video support. Hahahaha.


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Here are some from NL/BE (some work, some don't)

Code:
http://zeilsteen.ic-stream.nl:7052/
http://mp3.streampower.be/stubru-high
http://streamers.at.sara.garnierprojects.com/kinkfm
http://server-06.stream-server.nl:8040


Using "Add URL" while a stream is playing, gives strange results in the playlist too.

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First off, Nice music player, love it.

But i found a small bug, I select play cda. And it always says the Tray is open, though I know its not


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For anyone not following Trout's development on DonationCoder.com, v1.0.3 build 4 has been released.

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Lyrics window coordinates not being saved on close.

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Any news on this still being made?


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