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PostPosted: November 14th, 2009, 1:24 am 
I've never used IRC.
Are the questions & answers available in a log to view after they're solved?
Do the questions & answers get reposted to AHK Forum when solved?

If the answer is yes to either or both, where can I find them?

Thanks for any help you can provide.


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no @ both.
why?
1. 90% of the questions can be solved by reading the manual.
2. most noobs don't bother reading anything, thus it'd be a waste of time.
3. If we re-posted every question on the IRC here along with an answer, we would end up flooding the forum. also re-read #1. we get like 20 "why does this not work in games?" a day.
4. In the #ahk IRC, we rarely talk about AHK. only when someone asks for help we really only talk about AHK.

Well, some people keep private logs, but those are not for public because of privacy reasons.

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PostPosted: November 14th, 2009, 7:44 pm 
Well Tidbit,

you really didn't answer my question adequately.
Because your answer didn't address this question:
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If the answer is yes to either or both, where can I find them?

Not only that, you answers are confusing.
With your No & Both answer.

if the IRC's purpose is to provide quick answers to the impatient or
people who prefer realtime interaction n addition to it's other purposes.

Then it must have the same value as the regular forum.
Therefore the questions/answers on iRC would provide the same
learning experience as the Ahk forum.

So i'm trying to decide whether it's worth it to install iRC & monitor/answer questions, just like i do in the forum.

If it's 80% chatter & 20% help, then i'm not interested.
I'll stick with the forum.
That's my answer to you Why?


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If the answer is yes to either or both, where can I find them?

I didn't answer it because the answer to both the questions was no.
kinda pointless to answering a question if you only need it when either or both are 'yes'.
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Not only that, you answers are confusing.
With your No & Both answer.

re-read my post: no @ both.
@ = AT
& = AND.
so no AT both means "the answer to both questions is 'no'"
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if the IRC's purpose is to provide quick answers to the impatient or
people who prefer realtime interaction n addition to it's other purposes.

Then it must have the same value as the regular forum.
Therefore the questions/answers on iRC would provide the same
learning experience as the Ahk forum.

On the IRC we are more strict. we often times only help someone if they are willing to learn and/or read the stuff with give them. If they demand code without any effort, or are being rude, we will not help. sometimes we might help if they are not being rude but request code, but that depends on whoever is helping and their mood and how easy it is.
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If it's 80% chatter & 20% help, then i'm not interested.
I'll stick with the forum.

some days it's a whole lot of helping.
some days it's almost all off-topic
some days no one is talking (usually it's quiet on weekends).
some days it's a good mix of everything.

IRC hints for all:
* be patient.
* don't be rude.
* use an IRC client (like: pidgin, hydraIRC, XCHAT, etc.), not a web browser.
* wait for an answer.
* read the IRC channel topic.
* use a nickname.

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PostPosted: November 14th, 2009, 10:45 pm 
Thanks Tidbit,

I appreciate you're more detailed answer :lol:
and thanks for taking the time.


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imapow wrote:
somone skilled shold make a AHK Irc Client.


The only hard thing would be a fancy GUI - I've already made a few non-fancy ones. I use WinSock2.ahk.


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PostPosted: January 6th, 2010, 2:38 pm 
i join and am unable to chat. tells me "cannot send to channel"

do i need voice? do i need to register? seems pretty silly. i just want to jump in quick and chat


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guest3456 wrote:
i join and am unable to chat. tells me "cannot send to channel"


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Topic for #ahk is: AutoHotkey http://www.autohotkey.com/ the powerful open source scripting language for Windows. Use http://paste.autohotkey.net/ to share code. If you have a question just ask and feel free to stay afterwards. Note: due to spam bots you must be registered and identified to speak on this channel.

Sadly, we had a bit of trouble with spambots.

Anyways, just do as it says, get a registered nick, identify and join, you'll be able to talk.


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More people need to come on the IRC channel! Even if you do not need help, and just want to chat, you are still welcome!

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ChalamiuS wrote:
Anyways, just do as it says, get a registered nick, identify and join, you'll be able to talk

Well... How to register a nick in the IRC? Maybe you could provide us with some example commands.
trik wrote:
More people need to come on the IRC channel! Even if you do not need help, and just want to chat, you are still welcome!

And it'll be faster to get help, so people don't post the same question at the forum over and over again. In some posts I saw simple task like "How to send right click" or "How to use loop", posted again and again.

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tomoe_uehara wrote:
Well... How to register a nick in the IRC? Maybe you could provide us with some example commands.


Well, it does tell you on connect but sure....

Registering
Code:
-NickServ(NickServ@services.)- ***** NickServ Help *****
-NickServ(NickServ@services.)- Help for REGISTER:
-NickServ(NickServ@services.)-
-NickServ(NickServ@services.)- This will register your current nickname with NickServ.
-NickServ(NickServ@services.)- This will allow you to assert some form of identity on
-NickServ(NickServ@services.)- the network and to be added to access lists. Furthermore,
-NickServ(NickServ@services.)- NickServ will warn users using your nick without
-NickServ(NickServ@services.)- identifying and allow you to kill ghosts.
-NickServ(NickServ@services.)- The password is a case-sensitive password that you make
-NickServ(NickServ@services.)- up. Please write down or memorize your password! You
-NickServ(NickServ@services.)- will need it later to change settings.
-NickServ(NickServ@services.)-
-NickServ(NickServ@services.)- You have to confirm the email address. To do this,
-NickServ(NickServ@services.)- follow the instructions in the message sent to the email
-NickServ(NickServ@services.)- address.
-NickServ(NickServ@services.)-
-NickServ(NickServ@services.)- Syntax: REGISTER <password> <email-address>
-NickServ(NickServ@services.)-
-NickServ(NickServ@services.)- Examples:
-NickServ(NickServ@services.)-     /msg NickServ REGISTER bar foo@bar.com
-NickServ(NickServ@services.)- ***** End of Help *****


Identifying
Code:
-NickServ(NickServ@services.)- ***** NickServ Help *****
-NickServ(NickServ@services.)- Help for IDENTIFY:
-NickServ(NickServ@services.)-
-NickServ(NickServ@services.)- IDENTIFY identifies you with services so that you
-NickServ(NickServ@services.)- can perform general maintenance and commands that
-NickServ(NickServ@services.)- require you to be logged in.
-NickServ(NickServ@services.)-
-NickServ(NickServ@services.)- Syntax: IDENTIFY <password>
-NickServ(NickServ@services.)-
-NickServ(NickServ@services.)- You can also identify for another nick than you
-NickServ(NickServ@services.)- are currently using.
-NickServ(NickServ@services.)-
-NickServ(NickServ@services.)- Syntax: IDENTIFY <nick> <password>
-NickServ(NickServ@services.)-
-NickServ(NickServ@services.)- Example:
-NickServ(NickServ@services.)-     /msg NickServ IDENTIFY foo
-NickServ(NickServ@services.)-     /msg NickServ IDENTIFY jilles foo
-NickServ(NickServ@services.)- ***** End of Help *****


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tomoe_uehara wrote:
How to register a nick in the IRC?
What is the recommended way to set up my IRC nickname?

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PostPosted: January 28th, 2010, 5:38 am 
Note that all the help always says to type...

Code:
/msg NickServ blah blah blah

...when most of the time you can simply type...

Code:
/ns blah blah blah

...works for ChanServ, NickServ, MemoServ...

Code:
/cs help
/ns help
/ms help

...much quicker, can't imagine why they invented the shortcut & DON'T put it in the help!...


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PostPosted: January 28th, 2010, 5:16 pm 
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Anonymous wrote:
Note that all the help always says to type...
...when most of the time you can simply type...
<insert short codes for NickServ, ChanServ and MemoServ here>


There's a problems with doing that though, not all clients send unrecognized commands to the server (irssi for example does not).

So to make sure that it works in all clients they put /MSG there, they could however, actually print the fact that /NS, /CS, /MS is available to clients that support it.


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PostPosted: January 28th, 2010, 5:38 pm 
ChalamiuS wrote:
...not all clients send unrecognized commands to the server (irssi for example does not).

...IRC's having "Services" is common, so even if "some clients" don't send "unrecognized commands" to the server...I think all clients should support "services commands"...namely /cs /ns /ms /hs /os & the long variants (/ChanServ, etc...)...or at the VERY least be configurable to send any command to the server (if /cs don't work, change a setting to make it work)...

ChalamiuS wrote:
...to make sure that it works in all clients they put /MSG there...

...they should do the opposite, present the short form (/cs or /ChanServ) in the main help & make a small note: "The short commands (/cs my client rocks) don't work in some bad clients, plz use the long form (/msg ChanServ my client sucks) if this affects you...or get a better client!"...


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