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 Post subject: Re: clearer explanation?
PostPosted: March 12th, 2010, 2:23 am 
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Go to tools > options and delete temporary internet files
What's your setting for Favorites in the delete dialog? I guess autohotkey.com is in your Favorites. You better clear the checkbox on Favorites in the delete dialog.


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PostPosted: March 14th, 2010, 10:32 am 
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To the point: I never used this feature (if I want a page offline, I just save it...) and I don't use much IE (still keeping IE6 to test Web pages...).
But I have a generic advice useful in lot of cases: when you need to know what a software does under the hood (including, sometime, your own programs!), use Sysinternals' Process Monitor.
This great tool monitors file and registry reading and writing. It is useful to see what is installed on your system when running an installer, to see where is the default dir where your program writes, to understand where IE puts these offline pages...
On first run, you have to filter out system activity (or other, like anti-virus disk access, various services, etc.) to reduce noise and focus on the task.

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 Post subject: Re: clearer explanation?
PostPosted: March 20th, 2010, 3:04 am 
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...on XP & IE6 (which I have but don't use {I use Firefox}), in Tools -> Options... there is a Delete Files... button, click that button you have a Yes/No dialog & a checkbox "Delete all offline content"...does that checkbox exist in IE8?...are you on XP?

I am going to be backing up Titan on this one, since he has helped me out quite a lot in the past. Also, he is probably too busy helping people with code-related questions to highlight all the errors in this incredible assault on my beloved language.

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...if you did, constructively, point out what's wrong with it, that would help. Instead you just want to harass & insult me...do you think Mods should act this way?


If you want it point-by-point, that sounds reasonable.

1. You start a post with an ellipsis.
2. You continue with information in parentheses which you further seperate from the comment with text in curly brackets.
3. You move on with a comma after only two words (excluding your parentheses).
4. Use of second ellipsis, which is as misplaced as the first
5. Use of a third ellipsis which is actually harmful to the understanding of your thought as you place it just before the word "button" despite its attachment to the previous phrase. This is debatably your worst offence.
6. A second misplaced comma
7. Lack of punctuation between your thought and the "Yes/No Dialog"
8. A fourth ellipsis
9. A question mark immediatly followed by a fifth ellipsis

You used an ellipsis five times but never used a period. With that one ellipsis that seperates the text of a button from the word "button" that tells you what you are actually talking about, I am surprised you could make sense of your own post.

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...I communicate fine, so, no, I don't need that...

You most certainly do not communicate fine, and you do need that. And seriously, stop using ellipses.
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...so I will assume the worst (since you don't deserve the benefit of the doubt).

...when did you start hating me? I don't deserve the benefit of what doubt? You think I'm really retarded, just cuz you think I am?

Isn't that a tautology? Him thinking you are retarded because he thinks you are retarded?

By the way, "benefit of the doubt" is a common english phrase. It does not reference some specific doubt, so asking "what doubt" just makes you look a little lost.


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 Post subject: Re: clearer explanation?
PostPosted: March 20th, 2010, 9:19 am 
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I am going to be backing up Titan on this one, since he has helped me out quite a lot in the past.

...I have helped him out alot in the past, I don't know what went wrong...I think his is the 1st time he attacked me so directly...maybe he was on his period?

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Also, he is probably too busy...

...if he was too busy to finish it, why'd he start it?

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...to highlight all the errors in this incredible assault on my beloved language.

...LOL...I don't think it's THAT bad...

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...on XP & IE6 (which I have but don't use {I use Firefox}), in Tools -> Options... there is a Delete Files... button, click that button you have a Yes/No dialog & a checkbox "Delete all offline content"...does that checkbox exist in IE8?...are you on XP?
Tyrsius wrote:
If you want it point-by-point, that sounds reasonable.

...thank you Tyrsius, that was much more helpful than what Titan did...
  1. You start a post with an ellipsis.
      ...yes, when leading into text from something else, like a quote or list, I use ellipses at the beginning to lead into my text & at the end to lead out of my text & into the next thing...
  2. You continue with information in parentheses which you further seperate from the comment with text in curly brackets.
      ...yes, OK, so? I put sub-comments in parens & sub-sub-comments in braces...
  3. You move on with a comma after only two words (excluding your parentheses).
      3 words (or 4 counting "&")...but, OK, maybe that comma is unnecessary, but really, is it that bad?
  4. Use of second ellipsis, which is as misplaced as the first
      This ellipsis is not misplaced at all, notice it has a space after it, so it's not one of my "normal" ellipses. This ellipsis is there cuz the "Tools -> Options..." menu item has an ellipsis after it, so I include it in the instructions of what to click...
  5. Use of a third ellipsis which is actually harmful to the understanding of your thought as you place it just before the word "button" despite its attachment to the previous phrase. This is debatably your worst offence.
      This is the same as 4, the actual button you need to click is "Delete Files..." it has an ellipsis, so I include it in the instructions...
  6. A second misplaced comma
      I think this comma is called for...it's separating the 1st part of the instructions from the 2nd part
  7. Lack of punctuation between your thought and the "Yes/No Dialog"
      If you mean "click that button you have a Yes/No dialog"...then that should probably be "click that button & you'll get a Yes/No dialog"...that is only a typo, not intentional...
  8. A fourth ellipsis
      I love ellipses!...this one is separating all of the above, one continuous thought, from the questions that follow...
  9. A question mark immediatly followed by a fifth ellipsis
      Ending the 1st question, branching off into a 2nd question
Tyrsius wrote:
You used an ellipsis five times but never used a period.

...I love ellipses!...& some of my msgs do have periods, just not that one...

Tyrsius wrote:
With that one ellipsis that seperates the text of a button from the word "button" that tells you what you are actually talking about, I am surprised you could make sense of your own post.

...as explained above, my "real" ellipses never have a space following them, this one is the text on the button, granted, it should probably be written as 'there is a "Delete Files..." button' (with double quotes), to signify the ellipsis is part of the button text...

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And seriously, stop using ellipses.

...I love them!...I can't stop using them...

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Isn't that a tautology? Him thinking you are retarded because he thinks you are retarded?

...I have no idea, but that's what it sounded like he said...& my quote is "You think I'm really retarded, just cuz you think I am?"...so he thinks I'm actually retarded, just cuz he says/thinks I am...he thinks just because he speaks/says/thinks it, that it's true?

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By the way, "benefit of the doubt" is a common english phrase.

...I know that, but how he used it is weird...what doubt do I not deserve the benefit of?

Tyrsius wrote:
It does not reference some specific doubt, so asking "what doubt" just makes you look a little lost.

...I guess I am lost in the way he used it...it sounds likes I don't deserve the "benefit of the doubt", that I'm not retarded...I think I deserve the benefit of that doubt, cuz I would imagine that few actually retarded people would understand computers, write AutoHotkey & post in forums. Also, I do believe the phrase "benefit of the doubt" does (always or most of the time), refer to some specific doubt...


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PostPosted: March 20th, 2010, 11:14 am 
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I have helped him out alot [sic] in the past

Our only interactions involved you emailing me complaints and posting criticisms on the forum and IRC of how I developed autohotkey.net. You had several half baked ideas and changes which you insisted I alone spend the hours to research and develop. You also requested the entire source code on multiple occasions and when I did eventually release it and gave you step by step instructions on installing git since you asked for the help, I did not receive a single word of thanks or contribution to the code. This doesn't concern me but calling it a lot of help does, and I take offence to that comment.

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if he was too busy to finish it, why'd he start it?

I would leave it to you to remove all subjectivity of this response and see it as some kind of vendetta or revenge, such is not the case. I saw your posts follow a consistent trend of systematic errors on both grammar and spelling and couldn't decide whether it was due to satire, colloquialism or general ignorance. For this reason I asked as casually as I possibly could, I never expected it would result in such a defensive retaliation including scathing personal remarks and bitterness.

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I don't think it's THAT bad

I regret to inform you it is even worse than you could possibly understand. Your infatuation with ellipses and parentheses distorts the language beyond reasonable comprehension and I guarantee a majority of readers struggle to follow your thought process.

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...I love them!...I can't stop using them...

Hence, "nor do I expect you to change if I took the time to clarify in detail what is wrong with your messages."

Tyrsius gave you an accurate and in-depth list of focus points which you can use to learn from and improve yourself, disregard it at your loss. I have no intention of continuing this conversation with you.

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 Post subject: Re: clearer explanation?
PostPosted: March 20th, 2010, 1:14 pm 
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I love ellipses!...this one is separating all of the above, one continuous thought, from the questions that follow...


I think that right there is really the meat of the problem. You see, when speaking, the natural cadence of the English language might make it sound like people are talking with ellipses. However, using them in written English makes understanding what you are saying quite difficult, unless done properly.

You use them everywhere. You yourself admit to this. Ellipses should be used rarely, and for effect. You use them as if they are the only punctuation available. You use them in place of commas and periods, which I think you might be frustrated to learn, is grammatically incorrect. It is also very distracting.

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This is the same as 4, the actual button you need to click is "Delete Files..." it has an ellipsis, so I include it in the instructions...

This is a problem. You use ellipses so commonly that your reader has no way of knowing that in this instance you intend to attach it to the text of the button, instead of your normal use in punctuation substitution.

It is a problem on your part when the reader has no reasonable way to determine what it is your are trying to communicate. It is a failure of your communication.


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