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PostPosted: April 13th, 2010, 1:00 am 
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I don't understand. The remote in my tutorial is also an RF remote. What part of the tutorial does not apply to you? Is it that you can't find the registry key? If that's the case, you can try navigating to your remote's corresponding key and see if the ReportMappingTable value has the same structure as the one I use in the tutorial (ie. 7 bytes per button). I can't guarantee that it'll work the same way, but it's worth a try.

If this doesn't work for you, please read the section titled "How do I stop the default keypresses coming out of my device?" in the very first post to see what the possible solutions are. But I'm pretty sure you should be able to use the registry trick. Is your receiver a USB device? Can you also post a picture of your remote (or find one similar on the net)?


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I tried the reportmapping table, it does affect the regular IR remotes but not this one. I am not able to do anything with this remote. I will check the other solutions.


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Hey TheGood...

Thanks for the debugging tip, I'm gonna start on it right now and post Back.
::UPDATE:: Log included.
justinsmith2009 wrote:
Hi TheGood.

I have already tried the Step 5. I have an RF remote so that doesn't apply to me :(

Any pointers to where I can look to disable the RF Remote default actions?

Thanks.

Try the other sub keys, as you have a different kind of controller, try the different keys, as they refer to another remotes, not sure it will work as it seems every single remote in that section seems to be only IR remotes.

Good luck on that remote, and don't give up.

Here comes my update....
bidomo wrote:
A while ago a was saying there could be a problem with the way AHK handles Windows 7, something about AHKHID not working or something alike...
Well, found out something:
Code:
01 01 00 00 00 32 84 0F 80 20 00 00 00                                          Visualization for XP
IR code Goes from 00 to 12 byte length (13 bytes)
01 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 32 84 0F 80 00 00 00 00 20 00 00 00 80 FA FF FF      Visualization for Windows 7
IR code Goes from 00 to 24 byte length (25 bytes)



The keycode hasn't changed from 25 to 14, is just that Example 2 only shows 14, made the ListBox Wider and it shows everything (200 pts/pixels wider).

Here's the log from debugview, everything seems normal
Code:
00000000   0.00000000   [4184] HP remote event!   
00000001   0.00022573   [4184] Data received = 0101000000000000000C840F80000000002000000080FAFFFF   ;power
00000002   0.00027825   [4184] Keycode = 12   

00000003   1.60268855   [4184] HP remote event!   
00000004   1.60274029   [4184] Data received = 01010000000000000032040F80000000002000000080FAFFFF   ;Vizualize
00000005   1.60276985   [4184] Keycode = 50   

00000006   5.11575890   [4184] HP remote event!   
00000007   5.11579561   [4184] Data received = 0101000000000000004E840F80000000002000000080FAFFFF   ;Print
00000008   5.11584568   [4184] Keycode = 78   

00000009   24.20355797   [4184] HP remote event!   
00000010   24.20361710   [4184] Data received = 01010000000000000050040F80000000002000000080FAFFFF   ;Radio
00000011   24.20364952   [4184] Keycode = 80   

00000012   27.72184563   [4184] HP remote event!   
00000013   27.72417259   [4184] Data received = 01010000000000000047840F80000000002000000080FAFFFF   :Music
00000014   27.72525024   [4184] Keycode = 71   

00000015   29.67650604   [4184] HP remote event!   
00000016   29.67977905   [4184] Data received = 01010000000000000049040F80000000002000000080FAFFFF   ;Pictures
00000017   29.68216324   [4184] Keycode = 73   

00000018   31.52503014   [4184] HP remote event!   
00000019   31.52508736   [4184] Data received = 0101000000000000004A840F80000000002000000080FAFFFF   ;Videos
00000020   31.52511597   [4184] Keycode = 74   

00000021   37.04486847   [4184] HP remote event!   
00000022   37.04496384   [4184] Data received = 01010000000000000024040F80000000002000000080FAFFFF   ;DVD Menu
00000023   37.04499817   [4184] Keycode = 36   

00000024   39.79150009   [4184] HP remote event!   
00000025   39.79598618   [4184] Data received = 01010000000000000048840F80000000002000000080FAFFFF   ;Recorded TV
00000026   39.79768372   [4184] Keycode = 72   

00000027   41.34306335   [4184] HP remote event!   
00000028   41.34309769   [4184] Data received = 01010000000000000026040F80000000002000000080FAFFFF   ;Guide
00000029   41.34321976   [4184] Keycode = 38   

00000030   42.85860825   [4184] HP remote event!   
00000031   42.86499786   [4184] Data received = 01010000000000000025840F80000000002000000080FAFFFF   ;Live Tv
00000032   42.86511230   [4184] Keycode = 37   

00000033   45.04657364   [4184] HP remote event!   
00000034   45.04661560   [4184] Data received = 01010000000000000027040F80000000002000000080FAFFFF   ;Aspect
00000035   45.04664230   [4184] Keycode = 39   

00000036   47.45840454   [4184] HP remote event!   
00000037   47.45854950   [4184] Data received = 01010000000000000033840F80000000002000000080FAFFFF   ;Slide show
00000038   47.45858765   [4184] Keycode = 51   

00000039   49.56962204   [4184] HP remote event!   
00000040   49.56967545   [4184] Data received = 0101000000000000000F040F80000000002000000080FAFFFF   ;More info
00000041   49.56970596   [4184] Keycode = 15   

00000042   51.61466217   [4184] HP remote event!   
00000043   51.61471939   [4184] Data received = 01010000000000000023840F80000000002000000080FAFFFF   ;Back
00000044   51.61475372   [4184] Keycode = 35   

00000045   54.91717911   [4184] HP remote event!   
00000046   54.91723251   [4184] Data received = 0101000000000000001E040F80000000002000000080FAFFFF   ;Up
00000047   54.91727066   [4184] Keycode = 30   

00000048   64.06302643   [4184] HP remote event!   
00000049   64.06307983   [4184] Data received = 01010000000000000020840F80000000002000000080FAFFFF   ;Left
00000050   64.06312561   [4184] Keycode = 32   

00000051   66.47678375   [4184] HP remote event!   
00000052   66.47683716   [4184] Data received = 01010000000000000022040F80000000002000000080FAFFFF   ;Ok
00000053   66.47686768   [4184] Keycode = 34   

00000054   67.40312958   [4184] HP remote event!   
00000055   67.40316010   [4184] Data received = 01010000000000000021840F80000000002000000080FAFFFF   ;Right
00000056   67.40319824   [4184] Keycode = 33   

00000057   68.56335449   [4184] HP remote event!   
00000058   68.56344604   [4184] Data received = 0101000000000000001F040F80000000002000000080FAFFFF   ;Down
00000059   68.56347656   [4184] Keycode = 31   

00000060   82.00061798   [4184] HP remote event!   
00000061   82.00088501   [4184] Data received = 01010000000000000010840F80000000002000000080FAFFFF   ;Volume +
00000062   82.00093842   [4184] Keycode = 16   

00000063   83.84154510   [4184] HP remote event!   
00000064   83.84168243   [4184] Data received = 01010000000000000011040F80000000002000000080FAFFFF   ;Volume -
00000065   83.84172058   [4184] Keycode = 17   

00000066   85.80277252   [4184] HP remote event!   
00000067   85.80282593   [4184] Data received = 01010000000000000012840F80000000002000000080FAFFFF   ;Channel +
00000068   85.80284882   [4184] Keycode = 18   

00000069   87.01002502   [4184] HP remote event!   
00000070   87.01044464   [4184] Data received = 01010000000000000013040F80000000002000000080FAFFFF   ;Channel -
00000071   87.01052856   [4184] Keycode = 19   

00000072   89.91098785   [4184] HP remote event!   
00000073   89.91101837   [4184] Data received = 0101000000000000000D840F80000000002000000080FAFFFF   ;Green button
00000074   89.91117096   [4184] Keycode = 13   

00000075   92.44847870   [4184] HP remote event!   
00000076   92.44857788   [4184] Data received = 0101000000000000000E040F80000000002000000080FAFFFF   ;Mute
00000077   92.44861603   [4184] Keycode = 14   

00000078   113.16359711   [4184] HP remote event!   
00000079   113.16365814   [4184] Data received = 01010000000000000017840F80000000002000000080FAFFFF   ;Record
00000080   113.16377258   [4184] Keycode = 23   

00000081   115.24786377   [4184] HP remote event!   
00000082   115.24790955   [4184] Data received = 01010000000000000034040F80000000002000000080FAFFFF   ;Eject
00000083   115.24793243   [4184] Keycode = 52   

00000084   118.92089081   [4184] HP remote event!   
00000085   118.92094421   [4184] Data received = 01010000000000000015840F80000000002000000080FAFFFF   ;Rewind
00000086   118.92098236   [4184] Keycode = 21   

00000087   119.94291687   [4184] HP remote event!   
00000088   119.94361877   [4184] Data received = 01010000000000000016040F80000000002000000080FAFFFF   ;Play
00000089   119.94365692   [4184] Keycode = 22   

00000090   121.52102661   [4184] HP remote event!   
00000091   121.52156067   [4184] Data received = 01010000000000000018840F80000000002000000080FAFFFF   ;Pause
00000092   121.52163696   [4184] Keycode = 24   

00000093   124.96395874   [4184] HP remote event!   
00000094   124.96406555   [4184] Data received = 01010000000000000014040F80000000002000000080FAFFFF   ;Forward
00000095   124.96411896   [4184] Keycode = 20   

00000096   127.62662506   [4184] HP remote event!   
00000097   127.62671661   [4184] Data received = 0101000000000000001B840F80000000002000000080FAFFFF   ;Skip <<--
00000098   127.62684631   [4184] Keycode = 27   

00000099   128.49542236   [4184] HP remote event!   
00000100   128.49568176   [4184] Data received = 01010000000000000019040F80000000002000000080FAFFFF   ;Stop
00000101   128.49572754   [4184] Keycode = 25   

00000102   129.82093811   [4184] HP remote event!   
00000103   129.82099915   [4184] Data received = 0101000000000000001A840F80000000002000000080FAFFFF   ;Skip -->>
00000104   129.82102966   [4184] Keycode = 26   

00000105   135.81964111   [4184] HP remote event!   
00000106   135.81982422   [4184] Data received = 01010000000000000001040F80000000002000000080FAFFFF   ;1
00000107   135.81985474   [4184] Keycode = 1   

00000108   137.15670776   [4184] HP remote event!   
00000109   137.15690613   [4184] Data received = 01010000000000000002840F80000000002000000080FAFFFF   ;2
00000110   137.15696716   [4184] Keycode = 2   

00000111   137.95191956   [4184] HP remote event!   
00000112   137.95196533   [4184] Data received = 01010000000000000003040F80000000002000000080FAFFFF   ;3
00000113   137.95199585   [4184] Keycode = 3   

00000114   139.85015869   [4184] HP remote event!   
00000115   139.85026550   [4184] Data received = 01010000000000000004840F80000000002000000080FAFFFF   ;4
00000116   139.85032654   [4184] Keycode = 4   

00000117   140.75503540   [4184] HP remote event!   
00000118   140.75509644   [4184] Data received = 01010000000000000005040F80000000002000000080FAFFFF   ;5
00000119   140.75512695   [4184] Keycode = 5   

00000120   141.57691956   [4184] HP remote event!   
00000121   141.57698059   [4184] Data received = 01010000000000000006840F80000000002000000080FAFFFF   ;6
00000122   141.57699585   [4184] Keycode = 6   

00000123   143.99797058   [4184] HP remote event!   
00000124   143.99807739   [4184] Data received = 01010000000000000007040F80000000002000000080FAFFFF   ;7
00000125   143.99812317   [4184] Keycode = 7   

00000126   144.73300171   [4184] HP remote event!   
00000127   144.73306274   [4184] Data received = 01010000000000000008840F80000000002000000080FAFFFF   ;8
00000128   144.73307800   [4184] Keycode = 8   

00000129   145.44561768   [4184] HP remote event!   
00000130   145.44567871   [4184] Data received = 01010000000000000009040F80000000002000000080FAFFFF   ;9
00000131   145.44570923   [4184] Keycode = 9   

00000132   147.77093506   [4184] HP remote event!   
00000133   147.77110291   [4184] Data received = 0101000000000000001D840F80000000002000000080FAFFFF   ;*
00000134   147.77113342   [4184] Keycode = 29   

00000135   148.35560608   [4184] HP remote event!   
00000136   148.35565186   [4184] Data received = 01010000000000000000040F80000000002000000080FAFFFF   ;0
00000137   148.35568237   [4184] Keycode = 0   

00000138   149.76582336   [4184] HP remote event!   
00000139   149.76599121   [4184] Data received = 0101000000000000001C840F80000000002000000080FAFFFF   ;#
00000140   149.76602173   [4184] Keycode = 28   

00000141   152.39375305   [4184] HP remote event!   
00000142   152.39379883   [4184] Data received = 0101000000000000000A040F80000000002000000080FAFFFF   ;Clear
00000143   152.39384460   [4184] Keycode = 10   

00000144   153.67558289   [4184] HP remote event!   
00000145   153.67652893   [4184] Data received = 0101000000000000000B840F80000000002000000080FAFFFF   ;Enter
00000146   153.68331909   [4184] Keycode = 11   


And here's my registry settings for the remote (to check if it differs from XP/Vista), ReportMappingTable not included.

Code:
Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\services\HidIr\Remotes\745a17a0-74d3-11d0-b6fe-00a0c90f57da]
"RemoteName"="RC6 based MCE remote"
"EnableDebounce"=dword:00000001
"EnableVendorPassThrough"=dword:00000001
"DecoderID"=dword:00000001
"CodeSetID"=dword:00000000
"CodeBitLen"=dword:00000020
"CodeSetNum0"=dword:00000001
"CodeSetNumMask"=dword:00007000
"CodeSetNumShiftBits"=dword:0000000c
"CodeMatchMask"=dword:ffff0f00
"CodeMatchValue"=dword:800f0400
"DataMask"=dword:000000ff
"DataShiftBits"=dword:00000000
"ReportLength"=dword:00000003


As always, any help is very appreciated.


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As always, any help is very appreciated.

Judging from the log, the script that I posted seems to extract the keycode fine, no?
If yes, then you can try to slowly start modifying it into your script, with the labels and all. Test it at every step!


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TheGood wrote:
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As always, any help is very appreciated.

Judging from the log, the script that I posted seems to extract the keycode fine, no?
If yes, then you can try to slowly start modifying it into your script, with the labels and all. Test it at every step!


Sorry, forgot to tell it already worked, but only with this last script (with all labels but Xbox 1 remote, as the IR receicer is no longer taking it), will add the necesary code to ignore the 360 remote.
The other script I was maintaining won't work, so I'm gonna take this new script as base and modify the other later...

I'm happy to see this new script works.

Thanks again TheGood


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Hello TheGood -- Could these HID techniques be capable of detecting buttons 6 & 7 of a 7-button mouse? The USB data byte is the same one for all buttons with the bits representing the buttons like this: x 7 6 5 4 M R L (x being the most significant bit where an 8th button might go). The raw USB mouse data input (to host) is typical of most mice. This one uses four data bytes, the first being the button byte mentioned above, then three more bytes for x, y and wheel. This is a mouth-operated 7-button USB mouse I am developing for disabled people. The seven buttons all work. On an iMac running USB Overdrive it recognizes all 7 buttons. USB Overdrive is similar to what I would want to develop using AHK. It allows you to assign key presses, key press combinations, other mouse buttons, etc. to any of the mouse buttons using a GUI -- an easy AHK project if it weren't for the fact that AHK doesn't recognize buttons 6 & 7 out of the box. A program that already exists that does this on a Windows machine is X-Mouse, but it only recognizes 5 buttons. I have also run USB analyzing programs on Windows machines and the button presses show up in the data as expected, so I know it is possible for a Windows machine to see those button bits. It looks to me (at first glance), that your AHKHID methods might be able to grab that button data in order to work with it as an input in AHK. I know also, from browsing this forum, there are others that would be happy with a method of detecting more than 5 mouse buttons. Thanks for your time.


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tetralite wrote:
Could these HID techniques be capable of detecting buttons 6 & 7 of a 7-button mouse?

Hi tetralite,

I don't know anything about 7-button mice, but if it sounds like you should be able to do it.

First of all, when you fire up Example 1, does the mouse show up in the mouse tab or the Other tab (or both)?

If it shows up in the mouse tab, try Example 3 to see if it can detect any of the 4 extra buttons as XButton1 and XButton2.

If you're luckier and it shows up in the Other tab, then you should be able to register the TLC and monitor the output with Example 2. I'm not sure if that's what you are talking about when you say it uses 4 data bytes. Did you get that after putting the TLC in Example 2?

Anyway, once you're sure on what TLC the mouse is registered, you can make a simple script (similar to the one in the remote script). If the first byte of the four bytes is the byte with the button bits, then you could extract the event like this:
Code:
byte := data >> 24
Button7 := byte & 64 ;7th button
Button6 := byte & 32 ;6th button
Button5 := byte & 16 ;5th button
Button4 := byte & 8 ;4th button
Button3 := byte & 4 ;M
Button2 := byte & 2 ;R
Button1 := byte & 1 ;L


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To answer your questions:
In example 1 it shows up as a mouse *only* under the mouse tab.
In example 3 the 4th and 5th buttons do show up as Xbutton1 and Xbutton2.

The 4 data bytes I mentioned are simply the input buffer bytes that carry mouse data from the mouse to the host in a USB input transaction. The first byte is the button data byte, the second byte is for the x coordinate, the third for y coord and the fourth is wheel movement data. I only need to access the button byte (or get all four) and mask for the bits for buttons 6 & 7 and do actions accordingly.

In example 2, I get all zeros for the button data when I push buttons 6 & 7. I get two lines, one for press and one for release, as with the other buttons, but all quantities are zero. I get the proper numbers for press and release of all other buttons (L, R, M, X1 & X2). So when I push buttons 6 & 7, it appears that it is recognizing that a data string has been received, but it is not returning a value other than 0 for all of the button flags and data.

(btw, I have run sniffer programs that show raw USB data and in those programs I do see the bits for buttons 6 & 7. Also, more proof that the mouse works is because all 7 buttons work on a Mac running the USB Overdrive app.)

I understand your code example (I think) except how do I read the variable *data*? This is, I'm sure, something I would know if I had already studied your documentation, which I haven't really done yet.

The fact that the registration example returns zeros during button 6 & 7 actions is telling me that these bits are being ignored or masked out somewhere along the line, but it does report the zeros which I believe only confirms that a data transaction occurred.


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tetralite wrote:
In example 1 it shows up as a mouse *only* under the mouse tab.

This is bad news. The RAWMOUSE struct from which AHKHID extracts information about the state of the mouse only supports 5 buttons. You could try extracting the raw state of the mouse buttons by using II_MSE_RAWBUTTONS with AHKHID_GetInputInfo(), but that member is almost always empty.

The data you get from a sniffer is not necessarily the same data you'll get through the raw input device (which AHKHID wraps). Even if it were, it would come through under one of the TLCs it uses. Since the only TLC that it seems to use is the mouse TLC, then there's nowhere else to look for data, really. This issue of getting all 0s when pressing buttons is common, and has been discussed before. See this post (and the discussion that ensues) for more about the problem, and a possible workaround (i.e. see if the manufacturer's software can intercept the special buttons and send a key combination, which AHK can catch).

Hope this helps.


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TheGood wrote:
This issue of getting all 0s when pressing buttons is common, and has been discussed before. See this post (and the discussion that ensues) for more about the problem, and a possible workaround (i.e. see if the manufacturer's software can intercept the special buttons and send a key combination, which AHK can catch).


Firstly, let me say thanks for your time on this. Since I am the manufacturer of this mouse, there is no software for it. I designed it to not require a driver and just use whatever OS mouse driver exists on any computer with a USB port. I don't want to have to figure out how to write a mouse driver. You might think that a mouse manufacturer should be able to write a driver for it -- Not me! I'm too old
and lazy anymore!

I'll take a look at that discussion you mentioned and keep hoping for a solution. I know there are apps out there that can use more than 5 mouse buttons -- I wonder how they do it? Seems like there ought to be a reasonable way to grab those button bits.


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Whats the easiest way to get data from the example 2 script?

i cant copy it?


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fenix wrote:
Whats the easiest way to get data from the example 2 script?

i cant copy it?

You can modify the script itself to do what you want. For example, instead of using GuiControl in the InputMsg() function, you could use SendInput, so that the data would be sent (by keypresses) instead of being added to the listbox. Or you could add a FileAppend at the end of the function to log every line to a file.


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Hi i have done a simply keyboard map script but I will like it to work just with one keyboard so I keep unmapped the other one. I tried to see if them has different TLC's but they use the very same (1, 6) there is another way just to select the signal coming from the one i want?


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Jack_Aubrey wrote:
Hi i have done a simply keyboard map script but I will like it to work just with one keyboard so I keep unmapped the other one. I tried to see if them has different TLC's but they use the very same (1, 6) there is another way just to select the signal coming from the one i want?

Hi Jack,
You can always differentiate between them using their names. Just look at the name as it appears in Example 1 (doubleclicking copies the name to the clipboard), and use that same string in your InputMsg() function. Use II_DEVHANDLE to get the handle, and then AHKHID_GetDevName() to retrieve the name of the device.


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I just dont know how it work the InputMsg() and where i supposed to include the name (this its easy to get... the only thing i get in clear XD). It's been a long time since i dont programming, the script its just using the :: and the definition from the keylist . Look the code from my script is just this :
Code:
;Seleccion de motores
Browser_Back::!1 ;Tecla Motor 1
Browser_Forward::!2 ;Tecla Motor 2
Browser_Search::!3 ;Tecla Motor 3
Launch_Mail::!4 ;Tecla Motor 4
Browser_Refresh::!5 ;Tecla Motor 5
Browser_Favorites::!6 ;Tecla Motor 6
Launch_App1::!7 ;Tecla Motor 7
Launch_App2::!8 ;Tecla Motor 8
Browser_Home::!a ;Tecla Todos los Motores
; Encendido
 Volume_Mute::i ; tecla encendido
;Disparar extintor
    Volume_Down::+f ;Tecla Disparar Extintor
;Helices en bandera
   Volume_Up:: !v ; Tecla Helice en bandera
;Compresor
  Media_Next::NumpadSub ; Tecla Etapa siguiente del compresor
Media_Prev::^NumpadSub ; Tecla Etapa anterior del compresor
;Sobrealimentacion/turbo
Media_Play_Pause::w ; Tecla Sobrealimentacion/turbo

;[u] The next part is the one i want to restric to the usb keyboard[/u]
; Cambiar posicion
q::!q ; Tecla posicion piloto
w::!w ; Tecla Primera posicion
e::!e ; Tecla Segunda posicion
r::!r ; Tecla Tercera posicion
t::!t ; Tecla Cuarta posicion
y::!y ; Tecla Quinta posicion
u::!u ; Tecla Sexta posicion
i::!i ; Tecla Septima posicion
o::!o ; Tecla Octava posicion
p::!p ; Tecla Novena posicion

As you see its obvious that i 'mnot a english speaker. I still clue less.


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