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PostPosted: January 15th, 2005, 11:04 pm 
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jonny wrote:
I, for one, think this deviates from the de facto maxim for Chris' decisions - "10% of site visitors".
Just to clarify, that 10% rule only applies to candidates for the script showcase. It might also apply to making topics sticky.

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I'm assuming that a large percentage, if not a majority, of the people reading this don't have a clue either, or if they do, they don't care about [ActiveX] in regard to AutoHotkey.
To be honest, I know very little about ActiveX, com objects, and such. However, my overall impression is that they are not difficult to learn and apply. Others in the past have asked for support for inline VBScript, and certainly something like DLLCall would be quite useful to power users (perhaps akin to Rajat's SendMessage Tutorial).

In short, I have an interest in these features but lack the experience to implement them quickly. That's why I tend to procrastinate them and work on others that have a larger benefit, such as expressions.


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PostPosted: January 16th, 2005, 2:39 am 
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Ok, Chris. Sorry 'bout the 10% misunderstanding, and I take back what I said, thinking back on my VBScript request.


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Trust me Johnny, if I had the programming skill to implement COM/OLE automation, DLL calling, etc... for AutoHotKey than I would do it in a flash. I'm getting more and more into programming though, so at some point, my skill level will start to catch up to my ideas.

I also think that many users use programs like AutoHotKey, AutoIT, WinBatch, etc... because they want to AVOID hardcore programming, but at the same time want the POWER to do many difficult computer tasks. If there automation/scripting language has the functionality than i think many users will start to use it. I think its more a matter that if a feature is there than various people will use it, but if it is not than they don't. I for sure would use COM/OLE or DLL calling in AutoHotKey if it had. Plus, I'm quite sure that AutoHotKey would do a great job of implementing it and/or making it easier to use than other languages.

Another thing... I admire Chris's spirit and willingness to help. I'm not saying these "high powered" features have to be here today. I'm just hoping they are considered and will be worked on some time in the not too distant future.


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PostPosted: January 17th, 2005, 8:14 pm 
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AHKnow wrote:
I also think that many users use programs like AutoHotKey, AutoIT, WinBatch, etc... because they want to AVOID hardcore programming, but at the same time want the POWER to do many difficult computer tasks.


I want to second this.

I'm a VB.net developer and I'm sure I could figure out how to do many if not all things in VB.Net that I can do with AutoHotKey, though it would take a lot more effort.

In effect Chris has basically created basic Wrappers of basic and complex C++ (I assume) functions/classes that just require the most basic of input allowing extreme ease of use for their limited applications.

I'm sure I could do this all in VB.net, but to create such a reusable tool that can spit out scripts in minutes (vs hours in the case of programming) would take a monumental amount of work - and with VB.Net you're limited to who has the .Net framework.

This is truely an awesome tool and a great timesaver.

Oh, and the AutoIt3 code posted earlier would not be terribly familiar to VB users in the least. VB is very wordy and that code looked a lot more symbolic. VB would use Not, And and Or while a more symbolic language would use !=, && and || .

That AutoIt3 code looked A LOT like PHP, an internet server side scripting language. In programming languages I'd say it looks closer to Java/C, but I'm not terribly experienced in those languages.


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PostPosted: May 8th, 2011, 11:26 pm 
I was investigaing about automation tools and ran into this topic.
I found it interesting how AutoIt3 and AHK compared to each other 6 years ago.

However, 6 years is a hell lot of time when it comes to software, so I wonder... How are this two tools compare to each other right now??

Is AutoIt3 still better than AHK in terms of features, tools and power of the language?

Is AutoIt3 still harder to use when it comes to defining hotkeys?

I'll appreciate any comment from people who's used both.
Thanks.


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PostPosted: May 8th, 2011, 11:46 pm 
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I can tell you that every point (nearly) given in this topic is defunct.
AutoHotkey has DllCall.
AutoHoktey_L has COM support.
As an Autohotkey user, I have never run into an impassable wall. Therefore, no reason to switch. AHK is more 'newb friendly', and I for one think it's more powerful.
DllCall and COM pretty much opened up AHK to every possibility...

...I'm still working on it making toast ;)

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PostPosted: May 9th, 2011, 8:37 pm 
Things that AHK_L has that AutoIt3 has not: associative arrays (with inheritance AND class syntax sugar for prototypes), support for COM missing parameters and custom VARIANT values (ComObjParameter), variadic functions and variadic calling.

And perhaps the most important point: a community that isn't a draconian dictatorship.


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PostPosted: May 9th, 2011, 9:01 pm 
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And perhaps the most important point: a community that isn't a draconian dictatorship.

Chicken feed, all the communities in the world cannot compare with a greate tool and its manual.


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And there you have it my friends, AutoHotkey it is! :P

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