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PostPosted: February 7th, 2009, 5:15 pm 
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A doubt! Would SAPI ( text-to-speech) do more good than harm?


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geor wrote:
Greetings -

This is a long post - and that's just a heads-up, not an apology.

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I have some very strong feelings, experiences, opinions, & desires in this topic -
because I know how powerful AHK can be, yet how long/steep the learning curve can be.


Geor - Nice Post! I agree with you whole-heartedly.


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Is it going to be something like this?
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WinWaitActive, Notepad

Msgbox, Now we are in notepad.
Msgbox, Lets make our first script.

Sleep 500

WinActivate Notepad

Send % "Msgbox, "

Msgbox, This is a command.  You can look at all the commands in the help file.

Send, % "This is the text you will see"

Msgbox Now save this as .AHK file.  Change the file type from text file to All files.

Send ^s

WinWaitActive, Save
Send {Tab}{Down}{Enter}
WinWaitClose, Save
Msgbox Now run your script.

;etc


Or is it going to use GDI+ and be really nice looking?

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Something like that has to done.. but only once - during the early part of the CBT, so that the user understands what scripts are about before indulging in Scite/Pspad or Notepad++

.. but no message boxes.. There would be an interactive user friendly GUI with built-in editor ( HiEdit maybe ), IE control ( for HTML )..

.. Each book/chapter with scripts/snippets/screenshots will reside as resources in seperate resource only DLLs ..

vague ideas/thoughts, I know!

Frankie wrote:
Or is it going to use GDI+ and be really nice looking?


GDI+ .. only for image loading from DLL.. will be using skinning software anyway to maintain a consistent look over different themes!

Just a quickly cooked sample: http://arian.suresh.googlepages.com/cbt1.png

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What did you make that gui with?

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Suresh, if you need testing in Win98SE (for 9x compatibility, if that's even intended) and also for dual-monitor compatibility, just drop me a line and I'll do my best to assist.

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PostPosted: February 9th, 2009, 4:22 pm 
Hi SKAN,
FYI. Only on a tiny rainy island, which accompanies Whiskey-Island-Ireland somewhere out in the Atlantic, people still having a "tea-break". Mainland Europe drinks coffee (AFAIK the same is valid for a country named "Starbucks", OK, ok, it's not really coffee, more that kinda marsh-mellow-burbs ... :roll:).
So you might think about an additional "coffee-break"-option too. :wink:


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I know one resource I always go to when I want to learn a new language.

Project Euler, it's a bunch of programming challenges, they're mostly math based and AHK isn't well suited to the challenges but we could come up with some AHK-Specific type challenges to get people oriented with the language.

And if enjoy programming but haven't checked out Project Euler I suggest you do so! I had a lot of fun doing them, I got up to around #50 when I was learning Ruby.


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SKAN wrote:
A doubt! Would SAPI ( text-to-speech) do more good than harm?
It would do good in both using it in the tutorial and explaining how to wrap it in our scripts. ;) BTW, is there a good SAPI wrapper around? I'd like to play around with it. :oops:

P.S. SAPI 5.0 should work in Win98/ME (I have it installed) but I'm not sure about 5.1 (never got around to updating). I wonder, could there be a wrapper that only makes use of the common API between SAPI 4 and SAPI 5, for safe use in all Win versions?

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I have learned a great deal about Microsoft Access via these tutorials.

http://www.youtube.com/user/Firchild

You might consider this method for teaching newbies.
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Hello AHKers.

Great thread. I think this thread is geared towards someone like me - someone interested in AHK, willing to take the time to learn, but skinny on knowledge.

Having tutorials for different skill levels is very important.

I must admit that I have been quite surprised how much I can learn about Microsoft Access and Vegas (Video) 8 from YouTube videos. Please don't underestimate the power of a series of short videos.

As well, most learners (newbies) are not really coming here to be Pros at AHK, they have defined interests and needs. They really just "want to learn how to do the task at hand". This is the natural way of learning - Problem-based Learning. To follow this method, you would outline say the top 10 problems new AHKers want solved ? For anyone watching the forums, I am sure there are trends to what newbies want to know.

So, instead of focussing on "the new guy needs to learn about the SEND command", try it more from a "teach the SEND command to help the new guy fill out an online form".

Just some thoughts !

Good Luck. I hope to use some of the Fruits of your Labor.


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