AutoHotkey Community

It is currently May 27th, 2012, 11:11 am

All times are UTC [ DST ]




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 39 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3
Author Message
 Post subject:
PostPosted: January 24th, 2012, 9:20 am 
jethrow wrote:
That demonstrates character more...
I think one look at his location demonstrates exactly why s/he should not be involved with moderating and/or getting access to the sensitive data(bases). Of course that is all part of the conspiracy ;-)


Report this post
Top
  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject:
PostPosted: January 24th, 2012, 7:41 pm 
sumon wrote:
We can't wait for any single one person to make changes, Lexikos is doing an awesome work, but there are ways many of us could help more if we want to move forward.

Forwaaard!
While I totally agree, I always get a sense of incongruity whenever I see this kind of statement by somebody actually is not doing such thing. What have you done to help Lexikos?

He posted a help request there, AutoHotkey v2 Documentation, which anybody can be involved. However, there are merely a few people actually contributing the work. It doesn't take so much effort to do it compared to the actual work done by the developer.

I really hope it becomes more active.


Report this post
Top
  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject:
PostPosted: January 24th, 2012, 8:22 pm 
Anonymous wrote:
I always get a sense of incongruity whenever I see this kind of statement by somebody actually is not doing such thing.
Vote++ The same happens with things like "there should be a game faq" for example and when you tell them go make one the response is "but I can't / people don't read the wiki / I'm too busy" :arrow: Losers ;-)


Report this post
Top
  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject:
PostPosted: January 27th, 2012, 10:37 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: May 18th, 2010, 3:10 pm
Posts: 1179
Location: Sweden
Guest & Guest. I understand the point you are making - and even if you have a point, I disagree in the end. However, I will not reply, since I have noone to reply to.


Report this post
Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject:
PostPosted: January 29th, 2012, 11:42 pm 
Offline

Joined: April 8th, 2008, 1:08 am
Posts: 100
Location: Minnesota, USA
If a new website is created for v2, I think the name "AutoHotkey" should be reconsidered. Although there may be an emphasis on automation and hotkeys, this name just touches the surface of what autohotkey is actually used for in practice, and what its potential is.

_________________
-trueski-


Report this post
Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject:
PostPosted: January 30th, 2012, 9:57 am 
Offline

Joined: October 17th, 2006, 4:15 pm
Posts: 7503
Location: Australia
Quote:
... this name just touches the surface of what autohotkey is actually used for in practice, and what its potential is.

I won't rule it out, but you should consider that the alternatives probably wouldn't even touch the surface...


Report this post
Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject:
PostPosted: January 30th, 2012, 10:40 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: May 18th, 2010, 3:10 pm
Posts: 1179
Location: Sweden
trueski wrote:
If a new website is created for v2, I think the name "AutoHotkey" should be reconsidered. Although there may be an emphasis on automation and hotkeys, this name just touches the surface of what autohotkey is actually used for in practice, and what its potential is.


Even if you could be right (and there could also be a more "hip" name than AutoHotkey), there are quite a few problems with a namechange.

    1) The brand AutoHotkey is known and recognized to a lot of people & communities. A namechange would also potentially lose much of this recognition.
    2) The identity of AutoHotkey shouldn't be ignored. We're the AutoHotkey community, not the [insert-name-here]-community. I'm an AHK-programmer, not a [xyz]-programmer. And so on. Most people would willingly accept the change, but to some it would probably feel strange with a namechange.
    3) Loss of a lot of SEO value. Search engines know AutoHotkey, AutoHotkey is an old domain name with alot of inlinks and references. It would take years to build up a searchengine value equalling the value AutoHotkey and AutoHotkey.com has. Seriously, if you google "hotkey", AHK is in the top page of results! That is worth alot!
    4) It is hard to create a descriptive, easy-to-read, easy-to-pronounce name for a programming language. Is it even possible to describe the functions of a programming language? Feel free to try, be creative.
    5) Dotcom-shortage. Believe me when I'm saying it is nigh-impossible to find an available domain name with a dotcom-TLD, that is also pronouncable, a combination of words, and/or short. When trying to find a better domain name for Appifyer (because Appifyer should be spelled with -ier, not -yer) I gave up. If I want to change that product's name, I'll have to go for a non-dotcom.


Of course if #4 and #5 are ruled out, for example by accepting a domain name with a "dev" or "script" or "language" appendix (f.ex "Blazescript.com", and naming the language Blaze because it's fast and easy to use) we could probably find something decent.

But the topic interests me, and I'd be willing to participate in some brainstorming about possible changes. It's also interesting to hear that Lexikos won't rule it out. Most probably, however, I don't think the positive effects of a namechange would outrule the negative. Even if the artistic side of me says "Interesting!" the pragmatic side will probably be reasonable enough to say "No, it's actually not a good idea. At all."

The better alternative is to simply give AutoHotkey.com a facelift in combination with the AHKv2-introduction, and rebrand the brand, so to say. New AutoHotkey.

PS. 1000th post!
PS2. Comrade Guest & comrade Guest: http://www.autohotkey.com/forum/viewtop ... 399#509399


Report this post
Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject:
PostPosted: January 30th, 2012, 6:37 pm 
Offline

Joined: April 8th, 2008, 1:08 am
Posts: 100
Location: Minnesota, USA
Good points sumon. If it were possible to create a new name that could still be abbreviated, "AHK" the impact of these drawbacks could be reduced.. I have no idea where one would start to find another name that can be abbreviated in this way though... Especially one that says something about what the language can be used for.

_________________
-trueski-


Report this post
Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject:
PostPosted: February 5th, 2012, 1:01 pm 
(guest who made ahk v2 forum suggestion above)
jaco0646 wrote:
For the v2 release, the current software can move to a subdomain such as legacy.autohotkey.com; and we can start a fresh forum here.
If a way can be found to redirect current pages+forum posts,threads to the legacy domain (think of all the thousands of link from other sites pointing to documentation or specific scripts, or commented links in scripts themselves) that might be a solution, otherwise I personally would prefer to keep the links working as the scripts themselves + ahk basic still works, just the combination of basic scripts + newer ahk forks or vice versa that leads to problems for users (mostly beginners who don't realise there are various forks*)

* the basic forum sections + documentation could have a small notification bar at the top saying it is for ahk basic and v2 users should look elsewhere.


Report this post
Top
  
Reply with quote  
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 39 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3

All times are UTC [ DST ]


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 4 guests


You can post new topics in this forum
You can reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group