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PostPosted: Sat Feb 12, 2005 12:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In english so that everyone understands it.

I have translated some more paragraphs from the quickstart tutorial. Now my question is what to do, so that someone can read over it and check the lines if everything is alright.

Should I put everything in one post or would this be spamming? On the other hand I didn't find a possibility to attach a file here. Am I blind?

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Wer teilt den Artikel jetzt auf?
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 12, 2005 2:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

@ AGermanUser
Ich nehme an du meinst den c't Artikel ? Ich denke Tekl Question Schließlich gibts da dieses Copyright Issue und er hat den Draht zur c't. Kann aber nur er bestätigen ... das ist aber ein separater Thread [hier] - to whom it may concern Wink
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 12, 2005 5:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Concerning the translation of the quickstart tutorial. I think I'm done.
I've got now a .rtf textfile with my german translation. So what's next?

Making a huge post with all translated paragraphs? Attach the text file - but how?

@Bobo
Ja ich meinte den c't Artikel. Sorry was etwas verwirrt, wegen diesem Satz

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Wir kennen das schon aus der c't bei der Betrachtung der Beiträge ...

unterlag ich der irrigen Annahme du hättest was mit der c't zu tun und wärst der Ansprechpartner. So kann man sich irren. Laughing Dann werde ich mal die Antwort im anderen Thread abwarten.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 12, 2005 5:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm currently in the process of cleaning out my domain; I haven't heard Chris yet on whether he needs an extra domain for hosting it, but I could at least put it up for now. I'll just scritch together a (really) rough home page for now and put your translated one on there. Apparently noone knows how to set up a wiki, so I guess we could just start a thread and do all the development there. I'll post a link to that thread here once the domain is ready; you can post it there or PM it to me if you get impatient. Smile

Also: Do any German speakers here have enough imaging skills to translate the AutoHotkey logo (the slogan)?

P.S. @Chris: I'm just assuming for now, but do you want to host this new German site too? I don't really care either way, but I'll put up a temporary page on mine.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 12, 2005 6:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I currently dublicating Chris HTML pages on my machine to get a english and german version. If you want, just PM or email me your translations and I will insert them into the right sections. At least there are already some translations from BoBo and AGermanUser in the forum that I could start with.
After I'm done I could send them to jonny or Chris (both) to put them onto their server, so that everyone interested could have a look over them and sort out the gramar, style, typos etc.

Or is anyone else already doing it?
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 12, 2005 6:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't know what you mean with the Auto Hotkey sloagan!
Automation, Hotkeys, Scripting?

But what do the german users thik of this, I've translated the
"{...}" Chapter of the "Alphabetical List of Comands":




{...} geschlossene Gruppe
----------------------------------

Bildet eine Gruppe.
Gruppen werden oft in Verbindung mit If, Else und Loop Anweisungen
verwendet.

{
Keine, 1 oder mehrere Anweisungen
}


Erklärung:

Eine geschlossene Gruppe kann irgendwo in einem Script
platziert werden, macht jedocherst Sinn, wenn man sie
zusammen mit Else, Loop, If-Anweisung wie IfEqual oder
IfWinExist benutzt.

Wenn eine If-, Else- oder Loop-Anweisung nur eine einzige
Anweisung enthalten, muss diese nicht in eine Gruppe
eingeschlossen Werden, können dies jedoch, da es teilweise
von Vorteil ist, um z.B. die Lesbarkeit des Scriptes
zu steigern.

Eine Gruppe kann auch keinen Befehl enthalten, sondern
z.B. nur Kommentare um vorhergehende Gruppen zu kommentieren.


Verwandte Themen:

Loop, Else, If


Beispiel:

if x = 1
{
MsgBox, test1
Sleep, 5
}
else
{
MsgBox, test2
}


Passt das so ungefähr?
(Sagt wenn ich nicht helfen soll!)

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 12, 2005 6:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok, I will start to coordinate this. If anyone disagrees, please take over.
The AHK homepage is structured like this

-> Home (partly done by BoBo)
-> Download
-> Documentation
---> Hotkeys
---> Hotstrings
---> Scripts
---> Notes for AutoIt2 Users
---> Keyboard, Mouse & Joystick Ref
---> Script Showcase
---> FAQ
---> Command Reference (translation is done by BoBo)
-> Changelog
-> Quick-start Tutorial (translation is done by AGermanUser)
-> Support

For all these (mostly static) pages we could do translations.
Please post links to threads were I can find them.
If you have translations for them post them here or PM/email me.
I will mark (via Edit) in this post the sections that have been done.
Maybe everyone that want to do some translations should post a message here that he starts on one section so that others do not do it a second time.

I wouldn't do any translations for the "Forum" and the individual "Command" pages.

Everyone is invited to participate.
Please AGermanUser, BoBo and Arne coordinate yourself so that you do not redundant work. Anyone else, please talk to those guys or post a message here.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 12, 2005 7:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think it seems we definitely need a thread by now, so I've created a new one specifically for this site, which I have unofficially code-named "www.autohotkey.de". Please post all further things pertaining to that subject there (link below), and I will have a public ftp account ready very soon. This is about as close to a wiki as we're gonna get, since it seems noone has any experience in that area.

[link to thread]
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 12, 2005 7:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What about a design of the German page that is different from
this of the english?
Is there anybody able to programm html?
If you like this Idea you may help me!

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 12, 2005 8:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's a nice idea, if someone can code it. I'd appreciate any html work at all, because I literally have no skills with websites. But please post any further questions/answers/posts/anything about this in the thread I linked to above.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 12, 2005 10:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you like that idea you may have any idea for a layout?
I don't!
I con programm HTML, PHP and JavaScript, but
do everythig alone; it's very much work!

any layout idea to: thecrooks@freenet.de
or post it in the forum.

arne
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 12, 2005 10:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would keep it the same layout as the english. It then looks more as being one big site. And people might find it easier to navigate.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 12, 2005 10:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What about this!
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 13, 2005 12:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm putting my replies to the posts above at: http://www.autohotkey.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2299
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