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DreymaR · Joined: 24 May 2009 Posts: 60 Location: Bærum, Norway

You're really describing two things:
- The T9 algorithm itself, which basically works like IntelliSense(?), FastFox and probably many other available programs out there. It's probably a good idea for typing text, and for coding too.

- Single-finger input, which is a horrible idea as it leads to fatigue and is slow. Even when using multiple fingers on the pad you'll do a lot of same-finger repeats. The fastest text messagers find themselves beaten in speed contests against morse coders... and morse isn't particularly fast.

We had a discussion at the Colemak forum about the best layout for a mobile phone text pad and I think improvements were made, but it's still a pretty hopeless system. Chorded input can be made a lot faster, but it's hard to learn so most people wouldn't be bothered I guess. Stenographic typists using chorded input can make well over 300 Words Per Minute which is simply amazing. I think that mobile devices should've allowed for chording. A row of modifier buttons along the side of the phone would've been interesting.
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Acksys · Guest

Excellent! Not difficult to pick up at all!

CovenStine · Joined: 24 Jul 2009 Posts: 5 Location: New England, USA

Hey guys, this is great. I have a full half-qwerty keyboard on my desktop, but this is a great alternative for my laptop.
However, I can do one big shortcut on my desktop that I cannot figure out with scripting: Alt-enter using the capslock key, to open a new tab in firefox.
I've tried as many permutations as I can think of along these lines:
Alt & CapsLock::send {!enter}

It's really too bad two modifiers w/ space are not allowed, I'd love to
+Space & Tab::del
and other ctrl mods for [, ], \, =
Is this sort of feature planned?

Thanks for your help! Esp. with the CAD mods, LCamera, very helpful.
~C

hugov · Joined: 27 May 2007 Posts: 2448

CovenStine · Joined: 24 Jul 2009 Posts: 5 Location: New England, USA

True, ctrl-t opens a new tab, but alt-enter opens the search or address field (whichever the cursor is in) in a new tab, and focuses it.
But, as you probably guessed, I'm no programmer, and your solution works wonderfully, hugo.
Now I need to adjust to using alt and shift to get {,},\ and =
Thanks for such a great resource!
~C

DreymaR · Joined: 24 May 2009 Posts: 60 Location: Bærum, Norway

Pip · Guest

Hi

I really like this - so started combining it with some other suff I like.

Maybe someone can use my combinations.

Pip

NOTE - I'm only a novice, so don't expect any cool tricks, all I've done is take other peoples' work and mix it together Wink

DreymaR · Joined: 24 May 2009 Posts: 60 Location: Bærum, Norway

Pip: To make that work for another keyboard layout such as Colemak, would you just have to change the 'original' and 'mirrored' variables, or is there something else in that program that might cause trouble?

Ah yes, you've not made it layout independent at all. Images and whatnot will be messed up. Too bad - for me. Smile

I've been thinking about mirrored keyboarding in general, and I think that Colemak is a very suitable layout for it! While QWERTY isn't optimized for much of anything, Colemak is optimized for hand rolls which I think could work well with mirrored typing. I'd like to try it out a bit. Dvorak is a very good layout for two-handed typing but I fear the focus on hand alternation might lead to same-finger repeats if used for mirrored typing. Those are the worst.

Of course, August Dvorak cleverly designed separate right- and left-handed Dvorak 1-hand layouts in addition to the 2-hand one. But if mirrored typing works well, that'd be a much simpler way of learning a 1-hand typing method!
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randallf · Joined: 06 Jul 2009 Posts: 482

Looks awesome, I love the ideas, I immediately had a few for this,

I would love to see this where when you hold the modifier key it pops up the half-keyboard keymap (just the left side of the keyboard with the mirror keys on it), then when you hit a letter that letter is highlighted. Then when you release the modifier the GUI is hidden.

I think it would be 1000x easier to learn if you could see the keymap whenever you go to hit a letter.

Pip · Guest

Did you try:

SPACE and F1

This shows the keyboard - with the "other hand" keys above it.

Not entirely what you asked for - but it is how I learned the key mapping
[btw - this also works as an OSK if you click it]

Pip

CovenStine · Joined: 24 Jul 2009 Posts: 5 Location: New England, USA

Another bug-esque comment:
Space and shift. If you're holding shift (say, typing an acronym), and go to press a mirrored key you get a space and no shiftstate.
Example: Typing "I was KIA" turns into "I was DEA"
This can wreak havoc by causing a bunch of spaces if you do it right, too. (it can allow the spacebar to repeat)
Thoughts?

Pip · Guest

Hi

This worked fine for me (hold down SPACE first):

Using the left hand...
Hold down SPACE and press SHIFT and E - to get I
Type "was" normally

Hold down SPACE and press:
SHIFT and D, then SHIFT and E

Let go of SPACE and press SHIFT and A normally to get:
KIA

Using the right hand...
Type "I" normally

Hold down SPACE and press O;l to get: was

Type "KI" normally - then hold down SPACE and press SHIFT and ; to get A

I could type "I was KIA" easily with either hand

Pip

CovenStine · Joined: 24 Jul 2009 Posts: 5 Location: New England, USA

Oh sure, it CAN be done, but it's anything but natural, especially if you are someone who was a touch typist, and has lost the use of one hand... like myself.
I guess if I have to stop and think about it, it's not efficient, and when I get ' E' instead of 'I' as I've done three times typing this... you get the idea.