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neXt · Joined: 19 Mar 2007 Posts: 463

So, i now know quite a few AHK tricks, still have a long way to go, but anywhoo. I would like to start studying 1 more language along with AHK, what should i study ? That should definitily be windows apps. development and soft for mobil devices (like cellphones), but which language is better, easier, maybe closer to AHK (in the perfect world Very Happy

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Thx!

engunneer · Posted: Wed May 16, 2007 5:51 am Post subject:

mobile devices is totally different than programming for windows PC. maybe the most useful mobile language I have played with was java. search google for "midlets" to get an idea of what is possible.

It all depends on what your eventual goal is. There is less and less that can't be done in AHK.

Python is a really good language to learn too, but be careful of your formatting, since it matters in python!
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PhiLho · Posted: Wed May 16, 2007 8:46 am Post subject:

engunneer is right, Java is probably the most common language working on any platform, from Windows to mobile phones.
It is free, it is heavy (sic...), it isn't obvious to learn.
I love Lua (people should start to know it), it is light and easy to learn, but it is not "batteries included", so you can't start making Windows programming off the shelf.
Close to AHK syntax, you have Cmd (re-sic!) and PHP: Chris took many concepts from the later, minor like the dot as concatenation symbol, or more important like globals needing to be declared in functions.
C# or VB# might be a sensible choice (might even be usable on smartphones with Windows Mobile) and Visual Studio 2005 Express Edition is free.
C (or C++) is a fundamental language (native language used to make Windows) and has many free compilers but it is hard to master, very low level.
Various flavors of Basic are available, more or less free. Basic is easy to learn. So is Euphoria, I think. You can search the later on the forum, it has been discussed (with links) for a similar topic...
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neXt · Joined: 19 Mar 2007 Posts: 463

Thanks! I guess i'll try Java.
The last time when i was trying to get into some language i lost will to study completely, maybe it was 2 early for C++ Smile

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PhiLho · Posted: Thu May 17, 2007 10:26 am Post subject:

majkinetor · Joined: 24 May 2006 Posts: 3626 Location: Belgrade

C# (better then Java), Python.
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neXt · Joined: 19 Mar 2007 Posts: 463

Thanks Philo Very Happy

,i'll def look into that.

majkinetor, well, if i lost interest to programm after i opened up a book on C++ i'm pretty shure that C# is not the best way to go, at least for now. I hear a lot about Python lately, i guess it would be a good idea to check it out as well. Thanks Very Happy

majkinetor · Joined: 24 May 2006 Posts: 3626 Location: Belgrade

C++ is not good idea. C# is better idea, but if it is really like you described, Delphi is definitely for you. Don't look any further.
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PhiLho · Posted: Fri May 18, 2007 9:00 am Post subject:

Indeed, C++, C# and Java are close in syntax, but AHK isn't that far (at least for expression syntax).
I don't know C#, so I can't judge it, but I expect their designers avoided some traps in which Java designers felt by remaining too close of initial syntax of C++. So to this regard, it should be better than Java, although the later evolves regularly (Java 1.5, recent Java 1.6, incoming Java 1.7).

If neXt really want to support phones and PDAs, then Java is nearly the only way to go (or C++, but it has to be adapted to each platform...). C#, at best, can only run on mobile devices with Windows Mobile, and I am not aware of any device supporting Delphi (although it is possible, of course).
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neXt · Joined: 19 Mar 2007 Posts: 463

I feel very stupid at the moment Sad

. I went on JBlue web site, downloaded JDK6 and their compiler. But i can't get my first Hello World to print on screen Confused

PhiLho · Posted: Sat May 19, 2007 11:19 pm Post subject:

I don't know how BlueJ really works, but in classical Java, you compile by writting javac Hello.java, you then get a Hello.class file. You seems to have reached this level... You can then run the file by typing java -cp . Hello
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neXt · Joined: 19 Mar 2007 Posts: 463

Were do i type that? I see a Hello.java and Hello.class in my project directory, i compiled them by pressing a button without typing.
OMG, why couldn't they just make a RUN button like in Borland Confused

PhiLho · Posted: Sat May 19, 2007 11:48 pm Post subject:

In Eclipse, there is a Run button, I would be surprised there isn't one in BlueJ...
But you can type the java command on a plain command box in the path of the .class file.
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neXt · Joined: 19 Mar 2007 Posts: 463

Yes, they don't have that button, they got me completely cornered with running simplest program ever. Thanks for the tip on Eclipse, i'll get it instead of JBlue.