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RuneScape - How macros are detected by RuneScape?
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trik



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 12:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, it is not. Jagex looks for trends, so that will probably get picked up as well.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 1:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jagex picks up the click. They can't tell if it was automated or not. But if there are 4000 click in teh same spot with the same sleep inbetween they will think somethings up. Since RS runs of a grid baced moving system it can log your walking/running patterns. the best way to get arround it is to makeabout 7 different paths and to ranodmly take them. Also to have a comand such as this.


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; a comand
Random, rand, 1000, 3000  ; 1000 must be the MINIMUM sleep time for thsi to work.
Sleep, %rand%
;the rest here


There has to be some variation in your paths and your timing.

A chat bot would also help.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 1:52 pm    Post subject: Re: RS Censoring.....last 1 didnt think came through..... Reply with quote

Not gonna tell ya........ wrote:
Is there a cheat to get through the censors in runescape??? And why the Hell does Runescape have so many censors??? I mean every one's supposed to be 13 and over, so who could it REALLY BOTHER THAT MUCH???????????????????????????????????????????????


Sorry for double post. Just noticed this.

RS is build on an all "server-sided" value server. When a person "hacks" or "cheats" at a game they can only changed "Client-sided" values. A client sided value is informationn saved onto your computer while you play a game. Serversided is when the values are saved on another computer. Runescape saves all values on the hosted Computer (where ever jagex HQ is) for this exact reason. No one can hack it.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 4:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nothings hack proof. Im not saying Ive ever met anyone that could hack it but its still posible.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 4:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SpiderGames wrote:
Jagex picks up the click. They can't tell if it was automated or not.


A click done with the mouse has a different signature than that of one done with AutoHotkey.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 4:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Trikster wrote:
SpiderGames wrote:
Jagex picks up the click. They can't tell if it was automated or not.


A click done with the mouse has a different signature than that of one done with AutoHotkey.
Ya to a windows app. But remeber that this is in a web browser.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 7:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Trikster wrote:
SpiderGames wrote:
Jagex picks up the click. They can't tell if it was automated or not.


A click done with the mouse has a different signature than that of one done with AutoHotkey.

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Ya to a windows app. But remeber that this is in a web browser.


Exactly. The browser can't pick up the click signature.

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Nothings hack proof. Im not saying Ive ever met anyone that could hack it but its still posible.


I never said it was. It just really hack Resistant.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 8:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

... It IS in a Java applet. The clicks are being sent to the applet, therefore, it can get the signatures.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 10:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can get but the amound of memory it would take to save them all would be emence. If you get reported they may check this tho.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 11:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Let's say that each click is recorded. Even if each click takes up 50 bytes, and there are 10,000,000 clicks a day, that is only 480MiB a day. If they dump the logs every month, they would only use about 14 GiB. That isn't really a lot of space..
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 11:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gerrr! I started playing runescape again because of this thread and wanting to test out autohotkey on it. I cant stop now.
Anyway, your math looks off to me. 500+ ppl on each of like 200 worlds at all times (100000) and most people click about every few seconds. So how many 3 seconds are in each day? (a lot). But even after that its not that big but I don't think they would try that hard when they have so many random events. I was getting a random event every 10 to 30 minutes today.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 12:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Trikster wrote:
Let's say that each click is recorded. Even if each click takes up 50 bytes, and there are 10,000,000 clicks a day, that is only 480MiB a day. If they dump the logs every month, they would only use about 14 GiB. That isn't really a lot of space..


Problem is they need to log everything else as well, Money, items, where they are placed, stats, Musics unlocked, quest, ect. Nothing is stored on your computer remember that. + there count for players is in teh millions. Altho everyone and there mother has 7 accounts...
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 21, 2009 2:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

this is all bs.. runescape detects bots by using random events. if the bot gets caught in the random event and cant complete it runescape can track them down. Tracking mouse key clicks and stuff? BULL. its not possible it would cost too much money.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 21, 2009 3:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The smart move for runescape would be prevent bots from working by having high levels of input and tracking repetative motions and clickes, then using random events to stop the other bots. If you fail the random event many times or spend a large ammount of time on it then it can add you to a list of posible bot users. If the behavior continues then they can ban or suspend the user.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 7:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As far as I know, Runescape DOES NOT have the ability to check what processes are running, what's on your screen, or what you do with your computer outside of the Runescape screen.

What it CAN do, I think, is analyze the movements of your mouse while it is on the runescape screen. If your clicks hit an exact pixel location repeatedly, or if your mouse moves in a perfectly straight line between clicks, or if you delay a particular number of milliseconds between clicks you may get permanently banned with no warning. If you click on an exact color or two with 100% accuracy, they may be able to detect that. If behaves as though you never get bored and never sleep, you may get permanently banned with no warning. If you never say anything in the game or if you don't respond to players who talk to you, it'll increase the chances you'll be banned. If you fail every random event or if you log out every time you get a random event, you're likely to be banned.
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