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[jonny]

Any further posts on this subject should go in the German forum!

[AGermanUser]

I sent the translation of the quickstart tutorial to toralf by PM. He should have it right now.

EDIT

Check. I've read the changed posting.

Quick-start Tutorial - www.autohotkey.com/docs/Tutorial.htm

like this?

[jonny]

Please re-read the above post, AGU. I've edited it.

Edit: Yes, that's perfect, thank you. It'll be open soon, I promise!

[Titan]

Can't german users just use Google's webpage translator!?

[toralf]

I just realized, that it will be very difficult to just translate into plain text.
Because Chris HTML sites are full of links, it is very difficult to get the translation into it.

Here is what I suggest. We start with a bit modified english page.
-> each page consist of two column.
In the left and right are english at first. In the right each translator can change the english to german. This will keep the links and the formst. And noone has to know HTML in detail.
I have prepared already two HTML sides.
HOME and Tutorial
I can do the rest of the pages too. If I can send them to jonny, then everyone can start to translate. But please stop sending me pain text. I will not be able to put them into the html in months.
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Ciao
toralf

[jonny]

I'm currently getting the English site copied to the domain, with the changelog and forum linked to this site. Everything else has relative urls. If you are familiar with relative urls, it shouldn't be too hard for you, especially if you download what I already have on there and build from that. I'm in the process of getting the directory structure and site on the public domain too, but that will be a little longer (probably soon, but I'm going to get some coffee now ). Btw, Chris, if there was a bandwidth spike today, I'm very sorry. I accidentally downloaded the forum along with the rest of the domain, and it was going for about ten minutes before I stopped it. First time I used HTTrack.

[Arne]

I've transleted the Index you can download it here!

arne

[toralf]

@jonny: OK, since you download the pages again. I will stop to work on mine. I will start again as soon as we are setteled on one way.

Could you please add these HTML commands to each of the pages. That would help in the process of translating the pages and for others to re-edit it:

Add after the first H1 headline (after </H1>) the following:

<TABLE width="100%">
<TBODY>
<TR><TD>

And add before the <HR> (which is close to the end of each htm file):

</TD><TD>

Then copy all that is between these two added parts behind the last and add afterwards:

</TD></TR>
</TBODY>
</TABLE>

This will make the pages a two column page. On the left we can keep the original english HTML text. And into the right HTML text we can add the german by overwriting the copied english text.

For re-edit/checking the translated column we can use the left column easily to check if the translation kept the correct meaning. The column can be later delted when we are sure that it is nicely translated.
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Ciao
toralf

[Arne]

Why don't use a frameset? it's more comfortable!
you can scroll the two pages if you need.
only make sense if it's only for translating!

<frameset cols="50%,*" border="1">
<frame src="english.htm">
<frame src="german.htm">
</frameset>

arne

[Chris]

I'm glad for all this interest in translating. Here are some replies to posts in that other thread:

[jonny]

Sorry to anyone misled by my post above; I was unexpectedly delayed. I was going to post a copy of the English page, but instead I'll simply put a copy of Arne's page up. My next project will be to integrate his page into the English page, and hopefully get an intuitive structure for updating; but I'm not sure about the frames/columns. Like I said, I've had no experience with html, but your directions were simple enough that I think I could probably do it. It does sound like a good idea, but it might also make updating a little trickier. I've been considering just making a public domain that is also the main domain, but then it'd be a security thing and I want to avoid that. I suppose if anyone is willing to help with the html (greatly appreciated), I could temporarily change the main domain's password and give it out on a per-person basis.

On the other hand, I could also redirect my efforts to a wiki; if someone is willing to provide simple directions (or directly help), that'd be cool. Keep in mind I've never worked with stuff like this before.

Also, if anyone has other suggestions on how this project should be approached, feel free to voice your opinion. I'm with Chris on this, I don't really care how it's done; but I will do all I can to make it happen.

[jonny]

Arne's index is now on the domain temporarily until I get a working framework for the site. Most of the pages already have relative urls (Thank God for text parsing!), I just need to fix up Arne's for the rest of the pages and we'll have a good starting point. Then again, that too could only be temporary until a wiki's set up.

[ranomore]

This is the installation guide.
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki_User%27s_Guide:_Installation

This is the link to the wiki software itself (included in the installation guide).
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki
I don't know anything more about it, but the people who wrote it do!

[jonny]

Thanks ranomore, I'll take a look at it as soon as I can.

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