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iason



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2007 6:48 am    Post subject: A straigtforward question about licencing Reply with quote

The scenario: i build an application with Autohotkey. Quite complex, with a lot of scripts and folders etc. Of course i cannot expect that the users have AHK installed in their systems, so i include Autohotkey.exe in my application as the "machine" for the whole script system.

The question: Concerning licencing, what must i include in the distribution, and how.

Background: i messed quite a bit searching for example here and here, but I simply want a simple answer if possible ... ?
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2007 6:54 am    Post subject: Re: A straigtforward question about licencing Reply with quote

iason wrote:
The question: Concerning licencing, what must i include in the distribution, and how.


Feel free to distribute autohotkey.exe. You should not charge anything for it though.
This is my best understanding.

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2007 7:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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You should not charge anything for it though.
I think it does not hold true. Freedom does not have to do with money, according to GPL. The question is about licence. Wink
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2007 7:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just provide a forum link in your scripts for support Wink
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2007 7:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ian wrote:
Just provide a forum link in your scripts for support Wink
If i don't get a clear answer you bet i do the link here. Wink
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2007 7:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would interperet the whole 'free software' thing to mean this:

By all means, try to charge money for anything that is your original work

If your product contains other peoples' tools, please respect those peeps' hard work by keeping their work intact when you package it with your stuff.

Basically, If I were to try to sell some AHK scripts of my own, I would make it very clear that AHK is freely available at no charge and I would include a pristine copy of the AHK install files ( for the specific purpose of preserving the version of AHK used to implement the scripts). But I'm not a legal expert...

Keep in mind that if you are serious about selling software, you should provide support for your customers. If you are unwilling to provide a customer experience that's worth paying for, don't charge money for it!
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2007 8:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

please refer to http://www.autohotkey.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4720

basically, you may sell your script. you may read Chris (the developer)'s comments in that thread.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2007 8:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

engunneer wrote:
please refer to http://www.autohotkey.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4720


iason has already has that link in title post.
He wants to hear a Yes / No on distribution of AutoHotkey.exe

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2007 8:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

fair point. I did not read closely enough.

he must follow the gpl for distribution of the exe.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2007 8:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

engunneer wrote:
follow the gpl for distribution of the exe.


Oh! In that case,

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The question: Concerning licencing, what must i include in the distribution, and how.


1) Readme.txt

AutoHotkey.exe is distributed under GPL. For more details refer license.txt

2) License.txt ( you can get a copy of it from AutoHotkey folder )

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2007 8:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

my 2 cents Smile

you can licence your script/collection/intellectual property and request whatever you want for.

you also might distribute the autohotkey installer, but you MUST NOT say that this ones is your intellectual property, since it is published and distributed under terms of GPL

as long as you state that autohotkey is GPL'd and everything is distributed as needed (the GPL'd software, its sources and of course the GPL licence itself) you'll have no probs, i think

in case you want to compile your app this might be interesting:
Taken from Forum's entry
http://www.autohotkey.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4720

Chris wrote:
Litmus Red wrote:
Any executable you make using AutoHotkey is also under the GNU public license, because the executable contains code from a GNU-protected application. Right?

No, because the EXE doesn't contain AutoHotkey's source code. Therefore, when you distribute a compiled script, you're not distributing any GPL source, and thus your application isn't subject to the GPL unless you want it to be.

In other words, when you build an app with AutoHotkey, there are no restrictions on selling it, nor do you have to release your script's source code. This is because it is similar in principle to having built the app with a GPL C++ compiler.




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PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 4:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks fellows.

So i conceive 2 clear principles:
1. Never claim other's work as yours.
2. Always point to them.

I also want to say that we have to appreciate Chris clear position, since it respects absolutely our freedom as subsequent users of his work. Gee, i love real freeware!

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 7:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

it ain't no freeware - its OPEN SOURCE
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 8:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

DerRaphael wrote:
it ain't no freeware - its OPEN SOURCE


http://www.autohotkey.com states: AutoHotkey is a free, open-source utility for Windows.

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 10:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Skan wrote:
DerRaphael wrote:
it ain't no freeware - its OPEN SOURCE


http://www.autohotkey.com states: AutoHotkey is a free, open-source utility for Windows.
Freeware and open source are different things, DerRaphael is correct.
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