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PolishStatue · Guest

Does anyone have a one-handed dvorak version?
Thanks in advance Smile

PKLer · Guest

Try the classic layouts! (There are Russian, Greek, Hebrew.)

It seems that the cursor is not on the left when using Hebrew in PKL . that causes disorder of Hebrew sentence . Is there any method to support RTL (right to left )languages better in PKL while not changing the system settings ?
Tanks alot !

Long Bong · Joined: 29 Dec 2009 Posts: 12

After using PKL for a while I think it lacks Qwerty shortcuts. I've edited pkl_main.ahk file and it's easily achievable! The method is perfectly easy. Every time you press Ctrl, Alt or Win key (not AltGr) it suspends the script giving you access to your standard layout shortcuts! Try it out yourself!

You will need source code of pkl from here:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/pkl/files/Portable%20Keyboard%20Layout/0.3/source_code_v0.3.zip/download
and the edited version of pkl_main.ahk:

DreymaR · Joined: 24 May 2009 Posts: 89 Location: Bærum, Norway

I've been using PKL for a long long while now to get the Colemak layout running on work computers and suchlike, and I haven't been missing any shortcuts.

In fact, if Ctrl-F for instance were moved back to its QWERTY position I'd find that very annoying. I hope you added an option to switch that behaviour on and off...

Could you tell us exactly what it was you were missing?
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Long Bong · Joined: 29 Dec 2009 Posts: 12

Well I was missing quite a lot. I use Dvorak layout. I mostly missed Control + [z, x, c, v] so yeah I find it very useful to have such option. Smile

The rest isn't as important as these 4 shortcuts, but anyway I like to have my shortcuts in the qwerty way, cos in the majority of the programs are arranged in a way that makes them easy to remember. Maybe I am wrong. ~

Cheers,
Long a Bong

DreymaR · Joined: 24 May 2009 Posts: 89 Location: Bærum, Norway

You're welcome to convert to Colemak. That would solve your problem. Wink

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Long Bong · Joined: 29 Dec 2009 Posts: 12

I've tried Colemak long time ago for a week or two. I find Dvorak much better because of high hands alternation. Not all people like this, but I do. Smile

DreymaR · Joined: 24 May 2009 Posts: 89 Location: Bærum, Norway

I see. It takes a while before the good feeling from rolls kicks in, whereas hand alternation feels good immediately I think.

If you think the upsides of hand alternation is worth the downsides of dvorak, it's certainly a good layout. Guess you might benefit from your Ctrl key trick then, but it's a tricky track I feel.
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rathkopf · Joined: 22 Oct 2008 Posts: 14

Is there any way to map an extended key to send a control + key, for example, control + left to jump a word to the left?

DreymaR · Joined: 24 May 2009 Posts: 89 Location: Bærum, Norway

I use Extend+T (Colemak) for the Ctrl key instead, because I prefer to do this by moving keys and not by sending modified strokes. So my left hand can do the Extend key plus any modifiers, while my right hand gets the arrows and Home/End etc. - another consideration is that you'll want to modify all the arrows plus Home/End by both Shift and Ctrl at times and at those times it feels much better to have the Shift and Ctrl on your left-hand home row instead of in the corner.

However, if you send ^{Left} instead of just {Left} it should do what you want.
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rathkopf · Joined: 22 Oct 2008 Posts: 14

@DreymaR
I tried ^Left and that didn't work (it seems the curly brackets are not required, for '{Left}' doesn't work but 'Left' does.)

I agree that sometimes you would want both control and shift. But my desire is to have [Extend] + K move one character left and [Extend] + J move a word to the left. I do this with a great program called "TouchCursor" but I'd like to have it integrated into my plk configuration. My extend section of plk.ini includes:

DreymaR · Joined: 24 May 2009 Posts: 89 Location: Bærum, Norway

Oh, sorry - forgot myself.

PKL's Extend mode automatically adds the {}. So if you want to send '^{Left}' for instance you'll have to resort to a trick I discovered and describe your mapping as '}^{Left'. Hope that helps.

So for instance my ExtendMode-Undo key is mapped thus:
SC02c = }!{Backspace
(...which gives you Alt+Back and that's a system shortcut for Undo!)

About the CapsLock key: Not sure, but in my layout.ini file it just says
[global]
extend_key = CapsLock
(etc.)

That's as normal. However, in the [layout] section I have:

rathkopf · Joined: 22 Oct 2008 Posts: 14

@DreymaR

Excellent. Now I think that I can do all that I need with PKL.

I had already found the option for turning off the capslock by searching past posts, but the }^{ trick is awesome. I don't know how I ever would have found that.

DreymaR · Joined: 24 May 2009 Posts: 89 Location: Bærum, Norway

Glad to be of help. It took me a good while to figure that one out for myself, I can tell you. Smile

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DreymaR · Joined: 24 May 2009 Posts: 89 Location: Bærum, Norway

Here's a nice tip for those who, like me, use the volume control keys via PKL's Extend key feature!

The only thing I've been missing has been a little pop-up info about whether sound is on or off, and the volume settings. I found a thread at Geekhack.org that covers this very topic. There's a really neat little app called 3RVX by Matt Malensek that gives you exactly the feature I was looking for. (Seems his own page is down right now, but you can find the app elsewhere for download.) It can start automatically on Windows startup too. Not sure how it'll work with Vista or Win7 - remains to be seen.

Apparently, one could also use the drivers for the IBM Rapid Access Keyboards to get a display up. But that sounds more iffy to me?
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