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Famkee



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 07, 2005 3:29 am    Post subject: trojan Reply with quote

hey, I accedentaly downloaded a trojan with the spyware and all, I love how the antispyware programs keep a kill count:

AdAware SE: 156 ran 3rd
Spy Sweeper: 109 ran 4th
Microsoft antispyware: 21 ran 1st
SpyBot SD: 10 ran 2nd

EZ Trust Antivirus It didnt say, but I know it blocked the trojan


Yea that took me about 3 wasted hours of my life to get rid of. oh well.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 16, 2005 8:44 pm    Post subject: Spyware!!!! Reply with quote

Did the trojan com from an activeX driveby installer??

Solution: Install Firefox.

May I suggest dumping MSAntiSpy into the trash bin as it doesn't do anything but take up hard disk space and CPU clock cycles? It's just another sad example of Micro$oft bloatware.

Spybot S&D and AdAware SE are the only two you need. Besides the free for home use Avast Anti-Virus. Oh, don't forget javacool's nifty program SpywareBlaster. It prevents most spyware from even installing by putting known spyware companies on the "deny access for all zones" list for IE. Even includes blocking functionality for Firefox!
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 16, 2005 9:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know how hard it is to get rid of spyware, atleast before NIS05; even self-made ones, I had to use network sniffers and packet monitors to detect and get rid of those nasties.
Aleast you got rid of it which is good Smile
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daonlyfreez



Joined: 16 Mar 2005
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Location: Berlin

PostPosted: Mon Apr 18, 2005 11:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I use a few programs that greatly help in improving my 'security'. You ofcourse can be too paranoid, but just to be on the safe side I can recommend these sources/programs:

- Get yourself a decent firewall, ihmo the best one around is the Outpost-firewall, there is a free version that is very good, but if you can afford, get the Pro version (best in many tests, including winner of Stiftung Warentest comparison, an independent, highly respected German institute).

Outpost is developed by a group of former Russian hackers that have great experience, and - very nice - they created an open architecture, allowing developers to develop plug-ins. I don't know many other firewalls that offer this. If you know C/C++ you could even create your own plug-ins...

Sorry, but I can't help to praise this project, their support is excellent, they have a very good forum for questions/rulesets etcet. and their Jokes-Section ist one of the best to be found Net-wide...

- Get eDexter, this will greatly enhance your surfing experience by intercepting all calls to the Hosts-file, the file in your system-folder that tells your system to look no further for certain links.

- Get yourself a decent Hosts-file (see previous note). This will prevent your browser/any other application from contacting the web in the first place. Do a search for 'Hosts file' on any search engine (just remember to keep it under 2 MB in size, mine is currently approx. 1,5 MB and blocks almost all 'nasties'). There are numerous sites offering updated Hosts-files, you just need to regularly update. You can also generate Hosts-files with the Blocklist Manager.

- Get yourself ad/nasties-blocking lists from sources like this excellent one (the one I prefer): E. Howes blocklist for firewalls and/or IE. Regularly updated and very good. His site is an excellent resource for security issues anyway.

- Yes, get yourself blocklists, whether they are for the Hosts-file or a Firewall. Download and convert them with this excellent tool: the Blocklist Manager. Especially when you are on P2P alot... You need this!

- Keep up to date on Spyware/Adware/other annoyances with tools like: MRU-Blaster, ID Blaster, Spyware Blaster (all from here), and the already mentioned Spybot Search & Destroy and AdAware

- Get yourself a good Anti-Virus software. I can recommend F-Prot for DOS and ClamWin for regular scans and AntiVir PE as a resident.

- Goto the Gibson-site and get yourself the freewares offered there. They are very good, very useful and you can test your system online too.

- If you happen to get infected, you probably need HijackThis (also the original author of CWShredder). With it you can generate logs of your startup programs, running processes, browser objects etcet. In many forums this info is asked to help you get rid of your infection.

Here are some valuable sources on security:

Spyware warrior
Spyware info
Wilders security

Here you can get info on running processes:

Sysinfo
Iamnotageek

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 18, 2005 12:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

or ... if you don't wanna waste your life time because of Mr. Gates ... run Linux. Rolling EyesVery Happy

Nix für ungut daonlyfreez Wink
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jonny



Joined: 13 Nov 2004
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 18, 2005 12:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

BoBo wrote:
or ... if you don't wanna waste your life time because of Mr. Gates ... run Linux. Rolling EyesVery Happy

Nix für ungut daonlyfreez Wink


Can't argue here. I use Linux more than Windows nowadays; it's really just a matter of being patient and willing to learn.
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Serenity



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 18, 2005 12:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You need to know how to secure a linux install - linux is also full of exploits, its just that less people know of them.
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daonlyfreez



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 18, 2005 1:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, if you want to keep it simple and safe, go OS X Cool

Still very little chance of getting into trouble with it...

But most people are 'forced' to work on Windows, and security is an obvious issue. Linux is good, but still too complicated for the average user, and has indeed regular exploits too.

If you buy yourself a router with a firewall, you are helping yourself alot already, regardless of OS.
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Famkee



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 19, 2005 6:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

actually it came from Flash MX 2004, and I may or may not have been pirating it... and sadly enough I already had Zone alarm security suite running(a firewall), I downloaded it via firefox, and I dont have a router with a firewall. I didn't have any virus scanner at the time, one problem in its own. just goes to show you if you try to steal software then you get whats coming.

P.S. I posted the origional message after i got rid of it all.
P.S. P.S. I ended up getting Flash from another source, I will probably get nailed with spyware again.
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