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HCProfessionals
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 Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 8:24 pm Post subject: RSecure Software - RSecure PC Lock |
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Click Here to go to the download page.
We all, to some extent, have personal/private information on our system, or most likely will at some point in time. How many of you out there have a laptop? Every day, someone, well, a lot of people end of losing their computer or get it stolen. Now if you have personal/private information on your computer, how many of you have some sort of security program on your machine? I'm betting you would probably either say you didn't have any or you had AVG, Norton, Panda or some type of Anti-Virus or Anti-Spyware program. RSecure PC Lock is specifically for system security and has nothing to do with the internet.
If you are a small company or even a large corporation, you would most likely want some sort of security to protect your private documents. It's really nice to have for personal use, even when you want to keep your system safe from intruders (friends, brother/sister, mom/dad), when your not around.
RSecure PC Lock is small in size, only 1.94MB (Approximate time to download for the average Dial-Up User - about 8 minutes on average) and is Compatible with both Windows XP and Windows Vista. It is not recommend running this software on any other operating system besides Windows XP and Windows Vista.
Click Here to go to the download page.
Click Here to download the source code. Make sure you read and agree to the Source Code Software End User License Agreement before going through any of the source code.
Screenshots:
Computer Locked:
Taskbar Controls:
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SomeGuy
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| Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 8:31 pm Post subject: |
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| IS this made with AHK? |
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HCProfessionals
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| Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 8:35 pm Post subject: |
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| Yep. The only programming language I use is AutoHotkey. Although I do know C+ and Java, AutoHotkey is by far easier. |
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SomeGuy
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| Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 8:38 pm Post subject: |
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| then it is not secure. would you like some of the source code? |
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Z Gecko
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| Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 8:45 pm Post subject: |
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i would like to see the code to.
especially if it´s really secure,
I´d like to see the low-level interaction. |
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HCProfessionals
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| Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 8:48 pm Post subject: |
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| SomeGuy wrote: | | then it is not secure. would you like some of the source code? |
lol, go for it. That way I can make a patch. |
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HCProfessionals
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| Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 8:53 pm Post subject: |
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I'm waiting........
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SomeGuy
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| Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 8:55 pm Post subject: |
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i gotta get a fresh VM set up...  |
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HCProfessionals
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| Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 8:57 pm Post subject: |
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Don't go out of your way now....  |
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Oberon
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| Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 9:08 pm Post subject: |
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| What ThatGuy is telling you is correct. All you need to do to get the full source of any running AutoHotkey/AutoIt application is dump its memory and use a hex editor to extract the text code. In Vista its as easy as right clicking the process in Task Manager and selecting "Create Dump File." With more complex methods such as the use of OllyDbg you can fully reverse engineer any application without having to run it at all. |
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HCProfessionals
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| Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 9:13 pm Post subject: |
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The thing is, you guys can manipulate it and do whatever it is you do, but the version I created is on my website and will keep your system safe once it is installed.
If you find a way to defeat the program, let me know so I can patch it.
Download it and try it out yourself. |
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LBJ
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| Posted: Thu May 01, 2008 2:38 am Post subject: |
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There may be two different conversations in play here.
| HCProfessionals wrote: | | The thing is, you guys can manipulate it and do whatever it is you do, but the version I created is on my website and will keep your system safe once it is installed. |
HCProfessionals is stating that the application functions as it's intended to do and will securely (within the limits of reasonableness) lock down the system once installed. I haven't bothered testing that, but I have no particular reason to doubt the claim.
| SomeGuy wrote: | | then it is not secure. would you like some of the source code? |
SomeGuy's position is that the ahk source code can be retrieved trivially from the supplied .exe files. That's obviously true as per...
| Code: | TIPTITLE = %APPNAME%
#SingleInstance force
#NoTrayIcon
/NoDecompile
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In accordance with the request of HCProfessionals from later in this thread, I have removed the remainder of the source code retrieved from his compiled exe file.
However, it's important for anyone considering creating a security related application in ahk to be fully aware of the relative ease with which source code can be extracted from within a compiled ahk script.
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...but that's possibly a different conversation to the OP's contention.
The application *could* be coded so that its security method can't be overcome once in place, even though the source code of the resident portion is readily available. The availability of the ahk source code is not really the point of debate. It's always available simply because of the way ahk works.
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I've only supplied a snip of the main code above. I normally wouldn't have done so since reverse engineering is denied by virtue of the included EULA, but the author did permit same via his reply to SomeGuy's offer to provide the ahk source...
| HCProfessionals wrote: | | lol, go for it. |
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Fry
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| Posted: Thu May 01, 2008 3:11 am Post subject: |
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Well, I got rid of it by pressing Control Alt Delete it didn't open task manager but it got rid of the white cover but the msgbox is still there
From there i clicked the rsecure taskbar button and rebooted which turned it off completly
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| Posted: Thu May 01, 2008 3:37 am Post subject: |
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Sorry, but I had to stop here:
Could you maybe make a version that doesn't require installation? At least while you are trying to get people to try and crack it? |
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HCProfessionals
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| Posted: Thu May 01, 2008 2:30 pm Post subject: |
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| Fry wrote: | | Well, I got rid of it by pressing Control Alt Delete it didn't open task manager but it got rid of the white cover but the msgbox is still there |
Ok, if you would have read the documentation, you would have found that you have to turn off process guardian before you can use task manager, access the registry and the system configuration utility. Another reason your system will be secure is that you can't add anything to the registry or change it without turning of process guardian.
If you try to kill RSecure in the task manager or even at all, RSecure will reboot itself, and if you has RSecure Login activated, the computer will automatically lock after RSecure reboots. RSecure does that because it is considered an attempt to breach it's security.
| Fry wrote: | | From there i clicked the rsecure taskbar button and rebooted which turned it off completly |
You right clicked on the RSecure taskbar, went to system controls and clicked on reboot I taking it? That reboots your system not the program. |
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