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More than one kbd/mouse hook

 
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thomasl
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 15, 2005 1:39 pm    Post subject: More than one kbd/mouse hook Reply with quote

I am using another program (Windows PowerPro) which also hooks kbd and mouse. As of today, I can't get rid of it because it does things AutoHotkey doesn't do (yet).

Assuming the guy who wrote Powerpro did everything by the book is there any problem with running two programs hooking things?

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 15, 2005 7:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Assuming the guy who wrote Powerpro did everything by the book is there any problem with running two programs hooking things?


No, not at all, unless any of the programs are badly behaved. I run AutoHotkey, and PowerPro simultaneously all the time, and have never faced any problem.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 15, 2005 8:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I assume you mean this one? What can it do that cannot be done with AutoHotkey? Sure, with a little help from utilities, but much more flexible... (and I hate the looks of the GUI of that thing, sorry...)

It has some nice settings though, useful to incorporate in your AutoHotkey version of it? Wink
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 15, 2005 9:52 pm    Post subject: Re: More than one kbd/mouse hook Reply with quote

thomasl wrote:
...is there any problem with running two programs hooking things?
The OS is designed to support a chain of multiple hooks, so it shouldn't be a problem.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 16, 2005 11:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

daonlyfreez wrote:
I assume you mean this one?


Yep, that's it.

daonlyfreez wrote:
What can it do that cannot be done with AutoHotkey? Sure, with a little help from utilities, but much more flexible... (and I hate the looks of the GUI of that thing, sorry...)


Hm, let's see... clipboard handling, efficient monitoring of windowing events (ie not with timers but via a hook), quick menus which just need simple text files, virtual desktops... And there's more (the main reason I switched to PowerPro was exactly that it replaced a whole bag of utilities).

I agree that one way or another one can probably do all this with AHK as well, but I am using PowerPro now for something like 5 years and I have quite few macros and scripts. Whereas I am a complete newbie with AHK.

So I will have to use both programs for a while.

Thomas
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Chris
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 16, 2005 1:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As a PowerPro user, I value your perspective on improvements to AutoHotkey. Admittedly, separate desktops and monitoring system messages might still be a little outside the scope of the project, but other things like simplified menus sound attractive.

So to the extent you have time to get more familiar with AutoHotkey, please post any ideas that occur to you.
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thomasl



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 16, 2005 2:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chris wrote:
Admittedly, separate desktops and monitoring system messages might still be a little outside the scope of the project


I agree for the virtual desktops but I am not so sure about hooking window events. I think this is conceptually very similar to hooking kbd and mouse messages. And one can do some nice things with such a hook, once it is in place.

It is a long time since I did this sort of thing but I seem to remember that there is a CBT hook in Windows that does exactly that. Using timers is pretty clumsy, compared with this method.

Chris wrote:
So to the extent you have time to get more familiar with AutoHotkey, please post any ideas that occur to you.


I sure will.

Thomas
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Robert Carnegie



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 17, 2005 6:35 pm    Post subject: What I like about PowerPro Reply with quote

Best trick on a crowded Tablet PC desktop (1024x768) is to reclaim the Start menu button space in the taskbar for a button bar. I haven't checked exhaustively in AHk for this.

My Tablet may have a specific problem with some keystroke emulators, and that includes PowerPro, and maybe worse the more buttons I set up. RemoteKeys didn't work out on my Tablet, either. I've considered trying to set PowerPro to run some AHk macros; that might work better.
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