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SKAN · Joined: 26 Dec 2005 Posts: 7181

"The most professional quality software ever written with AutoHotkey"

SoggyDog · Joined: 02 May 2006 Posts: 626 Location: Greeley, CO

As always, quality words from majkinetor.

To be clear, though, I never claimed he has no right to Intellectual Property and he SHOULD be proud of his work; Paraphrasing SKAN in his post, this really IS about the most professionally written app I've seen here. Going back to my first response, I believe that this forum is a place for learning, which is what skwire did here and he did it by studying other peoples code, which he could not have done if nobody posted code here, so my statement that the app would not be here in it's current state without the help of other's code is accurate. Regarding malicious code, sure, anything you download can contain malicious code (which is why I don't download just every little thing) and it is further true that even when source code is made available, malicious code could still be obfuscated within and never seen. However, the chance of detecting malicious code in the source becomes zero when there is no code to investigate. Further still, malicious code is not my biggest issue here (that's what virus scanners are for), but rather that I learn best from the examples of others and it is very disappointing to not see any code here. I believe there is a lot that could be learned from this app. More disappointing still is the fact that, as you so eloquently stated, "By limiting access to the code, you limit yourself. When you share your code with the world, it starts improving others, and others start improving you, and all that is improving the world."

This dialog, of course, is what skwire was worried about, so...
If you read nothing else in this thread...

This app rocks... check it out!
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majkinetor · Joined: 24 May 2006 Posts: 4114 Location: Belgrade

Petru · Joined: 17 Dec 2007 Posts: 139 Location: Galati, Romania

Well, majkinetor, disregarding the fact that pride is a sin, he shouldn't have posted this thread so we would never have found out that this is made with AutoHotkey. By posting this thread, the only thing he could tell us is "hey, look how smart I am! and you fools were not able to do this before I did, and as a consequence, I'll let you struggle by yourselves till you fall into the madness to do something like my thing. Twisted Evil

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Maybe there should be a category for this: "Scripts without source", don't you think? I'm really intrigued by this and I'm guided by a strong sentiment of injustice and faith.

SKAN · Joined: 26 Dec 2005 Posts: 7181

Gosh! I was among the ones who insisted skwire to post his application here.. and I feel so sorry about that. Sad

Forgive me, skwire

Petru · Joined: 17 Dec 2007 Posts: 139 Location: Galati, Romania

Drugwash · Joined: 08 Sep 2008 Posts: 608 Location: Ploiesti, RO

@ SKWIRE:

My apologies, I wanted to stay clear from this topic as to not create "waves" but majkinetor's words - as an AHK master - made me come in.

We are not human beings unless we prove it by sticking together against all odds, helping each other.

After reading k3ph's post, I can fully understand the motivation behind turning to closed source. Yes, this can drive people wary and unfortunately breaks everything that can tell us people apart from other living creatures.

Anyway, the idea has already been voiced here: please create an alternative version of the script that does not contain the feature with the protected license. I'm sure nobody here wants to damage your intellectual property, but they/we do want to help improve/fix whatever can be improved/fixed.

Please think about it thoroughly. Thank you.

majkinetor · Joined: 24 May 2006 Posts: 4114 Location: Belgrade

Petru is right about one thing. This is scripts & functions forum, perhaps better place is General section since this app clearly doesn't fit into this category without the source code.
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SoggyDog · Joined: 02 May 2006 Posts: 626 Location: Greeley, CO

k3ph · Joined: 21 Jul 2006 Posts: 221

Drugwash · Joined: 08 Sep 2008 Posts: 608 Location: Ploiesti, RO

k3ph · Joined: 21 Jul 2006 Posts: 221

Drugwash · Joined: 08 Sep 2008 Posts: 608 Location: Ploiesti, RO

I posted one pink screenshot, yes.
Problem is, can't change volume or seek by clicking the progressbars. Old version with sliders would've been just fine but I got there too late, unfortunately. If I had the code, I'd just make an IF A_OSType in Win9x {show sliders} ELSE {show progressbars} and get over with it.

And if those ID3 tags belong to AudioGenie, I'd just remove them altogether or find another compatible way to read them for Win9x.

Anyway, thank you for offering to help; I'll test whatever you can throw at me, time allowing.

k3ph · Joined: 21 Jul 2006 Posts: 221

Drugwash · Joined: 08 Sep 2008 Posts: 608 Location: Ploiesti, RO

Currently clicking the seekbar at any place only rewinds approx. 500ms back and clicking the volume bar won't react in any way. That's not a problem for me personally since I have my own OSD voume control, but I'm not a selfish person.
Sliders would definitely be more helpful. Maybe I should create myself some testing scripts.

Regardless, I should be fair and say this is a good application and it deserves the right appreciation. The more the frustration that I can't wholeheartedly say "in your face, AOL, for your Winamp's dropped 9x support". Sad