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AGU
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 12:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
@Troll BoBo

No need to be angry. BoBo is a funny guy. I think he didn't want to offend you in any way. That's his style. Ok, the "troll" thing wasn't that nice. Wink

But hey, every camper would agree that a knife must always be preferred before a spoon. Just take a piece of wood and carve a spoon out of it. Voilà. Very Happy Have you ever tried it the other way round? Laughing

Hmm, what does that mean related to our programming language discussion?
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 12:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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at least that's a reasonable explanation for your lecture about soup and steaks
Well, as you've obviously not have realized what it's all about, here we go ...
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Metaphor - From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

In language, a metaphor (from the Greek: metapherin) is a rhetorical trope defined as a direct comparison between two or more seemingly unrelated subjects. In the simplest case, this takes the form: "The [first subject] is a [second subject]." More generally, a metaphor describes a first subject as being or equal to a second subject in some way. Thus, the first subject can be economically described because implicit and explicit attributes from the second subject are used to enhance the description of the first. This device is known for usage in literature, especially in poetry, where with few words, emotions and associations from one context are associated with objects and entities in a different context.

Metaphor comprises a subset of analogy and closely relates to other rhetorical concepts such as comparison, simile, allegory and parable.

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Have fun,
Yours sincerely
DumpAssBoBo Very Happy

btw.
Thx for choosing a nick. Wink
and would you be so kind to recommand me your source ("programmers slang dictionary")? TBH - I'm not used to it, but as always - its never to late to learn how to communicate with people of different herritage.
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Troll PoPo
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 1:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Maybe you hould read the post again then?...


done. same result.
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Lamer BoBo
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 1:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
AGU wrote:
@Troll BoBo
But hey, every camper would agree that a knife must always be preferred before a spoon.


well, I think both are equally good. Both can be used to stab it in the back of somebody. Twisted Evil
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 1:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
For little Trolls a translation Spoon --> Programs

For different actions different tools are necessary.
As AGU said: You can take a Knife to get a spoon, but why to reinvent the wheel? - Just take a spoon to eat your soup...

Translation:
If you want to do simple automation with hotkeys or hotstrings it is not the first choose to do this with Java or J# (or I think: even AutoIt).
So also a programmer spends few time to learn AHK (to do such simple things in AHK the first time is a thing of minutes, maximum a hour) and does now save plenty of time, because it is faster done in AHK in comparison to Java...


So I think AHK has a main-target on non-programmers, but also real programmers can benefit from it! Of course they will not need Listviews or Treeviews in most cases, but the core-features.

Maybe you could explain me now what's the problem with the AHK-Syntax?
Is it as difficult as the correct use of BB-Codes? Twisted Evil

Thalon

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I'm sorry, but I'm outta here. I don't like unfriendly forums .....
As I do not like people with abusive nicks and provocative posts Rolling Eyes

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 1:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Thalon wrote:
Maybe you could explain me now what's the problem with the AHK-Syntax?
Is it as difficult as the correct use of BB-Codes? Twisted Evil
No, you don't want us to get started. Razz
Basically, it isn't really difficult, but a bit irregular (some fields take literal strings, others accept expressions, others want a variable name, = vs. :=, If a = b vs. If (a = b), etc.). All this is due to legacy and trying to improve language without breaking too much existing scripts, so I won't sue Chris for that.
And it has some very nice features, like a good set of string handling commands, the rather powerful dereferencing (foo%bar%), the DllCall, and so on (beside the features of hotkeys, window handling, etc. with aren't part of the language itself).
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 1:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Hey, idiot. Do you want to provoke me???

BoBo
Interesting, he/she used my nick* to create a dispute/dialog Laughing And started with "Lamer BoBo wrote:" (which in this case means he meant himself Laughing). Not to bad. Beside the fact that I never ever used my nick as a signature, it is to obvious that this statement is far beyond my intellectual level. Wink So as he has started to answer his own questions - we're back on the track:
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So, what is the target audience of AHK? Programmers or non programmers?


* easily to identify as its IP will get logged Cool
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 2:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
BoBo wrote:

* easily to identify as its IP will get logged Cool


If you log my IP I will sue the crap out of you, as it's my IP and I'm the only one to define what happens to it. Be warned, my lawyer is already informed Wink
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 2:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
OK. My appologies goes to BoBo for using his nick and constantly using foul language. My psychiatrist told not to do that, but bare with me ... the voices tell me to do it ... Crying or Very sad
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not-trolling-daonlyfreez
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 2:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Confused

Would the two/three BoBo's here please stop the slanting?

AutoHotkey is easy to use, if you are willing to learn. AutoHotkey also has the advantage of only asking the bare necessary amount of coding to get things done, this is very effective and differs from many other programming/scripting languages. So, invest some time, and you'll save a whole lot more of time on coding/repetative tasks.

If you are used to Basic-ish programming/scripting and you do not wish to learn, you could use AutoIt instead.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 2:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
OK. So everyone knows that a statement which contains foul language has been made by Troll BoBo using BoBo's nick. Fair enough. Wir wissen ja jetzt wes Geistes Kind du bist Wink

Cool
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 2:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
@ Daonlyfreeze
menno, jetzt wo es gerade anfängt spass zu machen Laughing
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not-trolling-daonlyfreez
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 2:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Verstehe... Laughing

@BoBo's: trying to 'convince' somebody of the benefits of something will probably not work if you use 'hard' language Wink ...

@not-real-BoBo's: if you are not willing to read thoroughly or learn a bit, one can expect a 'nasty' remark or two...
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 3:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
@Bobo
I think one problem with this thread is the backround of our guests. They read in their Forum, all parts of Autohotkey were stolen from Autoit. Now they come here to do some mud-fighting. Sad
http://www.autoitscript.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=7204&st=69#
Valik wrote:
A certain "other" open-source project was started because a whiny-ass-bitch was unintentionally ignored by Jon so he goes off and starts his own language and leeches off both the success of AutoIt and the code base


@@Bobo Hmm, wird sicher noch nicht alles gewesen sein, was von deren Seite kommen wird, also bleib cool, Bobo.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 3:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
garath wrote:

http://www.autoitscript.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=7204&st=69#


thanks for the link. I did not know, that AHK was "borrowing" the sources of AutoIT. Very interesting. So, why is the syntax of the two so different???
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