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[Tuncay]

At the beginning, I choosed AutoHotkey because of the easer syntax and because AHK have the ability to creating tray menus (in the AUT documentation I didn't found it). I had no idea how to compare without any knowledge of them.

Today, I don't think AutoHotkey is nether better nor more badly than AutoIt. They 2 have its own strength against the comparing language.

But I stay on AutoHotkey, not only because the good community.

[majkinetor]

AU3 is slow as hell. It is enough for serious ppl not to use it.

As Tuncay said, they are not directly comparable but, even If I accept it is much better, "slow as hell" is still there. Why do I want something good that is sucking the life out of my system ? Even the "hello world" application eats 5MB of RAM....


One of my firends correctly defined AHK: it is small and fast fuking automatition language.
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[jonny]

[majkinetor]

[jonny]

Are you denying that C is small and profanely fast?

[majkinetor]

omg, ofc no (except when compiling is in question)
I am denying comparison between c and ahk.
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[jonny]

[majkinetor]

But not in the same solar system
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[Azerty]

Hi all

As a new AHK user (sth like 1 month old), as a new registered member.

IMHO

AHK is the worst language I ever used (and I've seen a lot !), where I still have trouble to understand where % signs go. I hate the syntax (which in unintuitive to my mind, even being simple for others).

BUT

It does extremely well what I need it to do. ALL what I need. With (relatively) few lines of code.

For instance : no problems to automate my multimedia hour-long operations for which I don't want to stay awake in front of the screen just to click a msgbox in the middle of the night.

The "bad" doc is in fact very good once one has identified the possibilities and philosophy of AHK, and one has found how to search it.
And the best doc is here, in the forum, where the contributors are always willingfull to help, as far as I've seen. Event to respond to seemingly dumb questions.

MOREOVER

I really don't know AutoIt v3, but I used an older AutoIt by M$ a couple years ago, and it helped me well except for hotkeys, which is what I need most everyday on my keyboard.

SO

To every one wanting to know if AHK really is the better tool, I just can say : don't expect biased comparisons to tell you apart, try them all until you find the one which suits your needs, whichever comes first, and stick to it until you get new needs.

PS : no flame here.

[majkinetor]

ofc not

It seems that we think about the topic very similar. I don't like syntax capabilities of AHK at all, it is very hard for me to programm in it anything bigger then few lines. I also have trouble with %, have to look eatch time if command does with naked strings or expressions etc... So, it is probably one of the worst languages I ever used, but it seems that it applies only to ppl with programming background. N00bs don't have such problems, I guess.

BUT, language is currently on second place for me. Performance is on first. Thats why I didn't switch to some of the alternatives so far....
I have C# for slow and sophisticated mambo jumbo, witch has the best syntax features for me, among mainstreem languages.

Anyway, that is the reason why some of us constantly spam the Wish List. One of my favorities for future version is eventual replacement of %..% with $(...) syntax and ofc, arrays.

So, with little luck, with little concern from Chris about the language sophistication and with more time and developers, I guess some of the weakest points of AHK will be fixed.
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[Azerty]

For me, speed is not always a concern (and I think looping in AHK in really not a speedy operation), but functionnality in automating hotkeys, hotstrings & window mgmt in one tool is the point. It's what made me stay when I arrived here, after a couple of months using hoekey (which neither offered at first nor evolved to achieve my growing needs).

Az

[majkinetor]

Automatition works flowless even with very hot CPU. Hotkeys are the best thing about AHK, and I wonder how stupid you should be to remove it (talking about AU3). Generaly, automatition and hotkeys come together naturaly and that is winning combination in AHK.

But generaly, many things in AHK are very fast. Million DLL cals and million EnvGet's are more then 10x faster then in WinBatch, VBScript....
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[Thalon]

Hmm...
Setting "%" for variables is very simple I think and expressions are supported (nearly?) everywhere where I can handle normal strings, too.

I can write whole programs in 15 minutes with it (using PSPad) or spend hours over hours for bigger problems.
It has one of the easiest syntax I ever used (except ASM, KOP, FUP and AWL - last 3 are special for µ-controllers normally) and a damn good documentation

Yes, it can be improved in many ways, but I would fear to use "$" for variables (looks like shit in my eyes).

As a matter of fact I like AHK's syntax + documentation so much that I gave up all effords to learn Python, Delphi and C#...

Thalon
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