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AHKnow*
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 8:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You know.... AutoHotkey IS FASTER. This was not my main reason to choose it over AutoIt, but its another reason to use AutoHotkey.

Also, not just faster in execution either. AutoHotkey is faster to learn, faster think up a program, and faster to type the program out (if you are not using autocomplete).

Still, AutoIt has some advantages, but you could just use VBScript or JScript or Python , FileAppend, Cscript.exe, and also CMDret if needed. Or... Even mix AutoIt and AutoHotkey.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 27, 2007 10:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I came across with AHK first.
So, I use AHK. Why use other?
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 1:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

AHK is easier because it was always the same syntax. Very Happy
AutoIt has changed the syntax from version 2 to 3, which makes it harder for long-time scripters to script (if they haven't scripted in a while).
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 10:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

AutoGuest wrote:
AutoIt has changed the syntax from version 2 to 3, which makes it harder for long-time scripters to script (if they haven't scripted in a while).
jpm wrote a tool to convert old v2 scripts to new v3 syntax Wink
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 12:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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jpm wrote a tool to convert old v2 scripts to new v3 syntax
So he's written a tool to migrate the developers knowledge to v3 too. That's really cool! Very Happy
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 6:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why use autoit instead of ahk?
Autoit v3 has thousands more commands than ahk with com support, IE, web based, ActiveX, dlls and lots of other features (mostrly UDFs created by autoit users), instead ahk is just a copy of the source code by someone with lack of abilities (this is why ahk has such a few features and not been developed further from the Autoit v2 [dos commands])

Take a look at forums of autoit , you ll see 20000 more users, and experts, great features and lots of help, what can be done with ahk in 5 lines can be done much shorter in AutoItv3

You want to compare scripts??? look in au3 forums in the example scripts section. you will find outstanting scripts , great udfs and deticated community scripters... and then take a look at ahk forums .... Pfffff

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Much more people know AutoIt and use it , ahk is just a wortherless copy
Autoit managed to get special in a world that programming languages are as many as spoken languages
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 6:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

not to mention that half of ahk stuffs are from autoit like compiler...
not too mention that even the idea of Scite4Autoit has been stolen to create Scite4Ahk .... but those noobs here are unable to make a proper use of scilexer.dll
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 08, 2007 11:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Linux created an OS for freaks, Microsoft created one for noobs, and look who won the battle. Now even all those freaks have become happy noobs. Smile
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 08, 2007 5:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

AutoScriptKey creator wrote:
ahk is just a copy of the source code by someone with lack of abilities
The core framework of AutoHotkey.exe (syntax, parsing, variables, etc.) was written from scratch without the use of source code from other projects. However, it does use AutoIt v3 code to implement about 40 commands, the complete list of which is at www.autohotkey.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=19710#19710

For the early history of AutoHotkey and why it was created, see www.autohotkey.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=20176#20176

For anyone who wishes to examine it, the AutoHotkey source code is at www.autohotkey.com/download/ . It has been developed for over four years and speaks for itself.
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fincs



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 08, 2007 6:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

@Guest:

Guest wrote:
not too mention that even the idea of Scite4Autoit has been stolen to create Scite4Ahk ....


I am the autor of SciTE4AutoHotkey, and I didn't stole the idea, I just only get inspired by SciTE4AutoIt3.

Guest wrote:
but those noobs here are unable to make a proper use of scilexer.dll


There are a unfinished (yes, unfinished) lexer for AutoHotkey (the lexer is currently developed by PhiLho). But the lexer is great, anyway. And one thing more: SciTE4AutoHotkey is another SciTE distribution, not a rip-off of SciTE4AutoIt3. The name is similar, but this does not mean that SciTE4AutoHotkey is a copy of SciTE4AutoIt3.

@AutoScriptKey creator:

AutoScriptKey creator wrote:
Autoit v3 has thousands more commands than ahk with com support, IE, web based, ActiveX, dlls and lots of other features


AutoIt3 has it's features and AutoHotkey has it's features.
Does AutoIt3 have hotstrings, callback, advanced hotkeys, some automation stuff, joystick support and etc? AutoHotkey has COM support with some UDFs (see COM Helper), a IE control can be embedded into an AutoHotkey GUI (see Embed an Internet Explorer control in your AHK Gui via COM), ActiveX is currently not supported in AutoIt3 (I think), and Dll's can be called by AutoHotkey.

AutoScriptKey creator wrote:
mostrly UDFs created by autoit users

AutoHotkey has UDF support, and a LOT of UDF's have written for AutoHotkey.

AutoScriptKey creator wrote:
what can be done with ahk in 5 lines can be done much shorter in AutoItv3


Compare:
AutoHotkey code:
Code:
MsgBox, 0, Title, Text
MsgBox test
myvar =                This is a test
d:
myvar := "This" myvar "is a test"
If myvar <> ThisThisThis is a testis a testis a test
    Goto d
Else
    Goto myMsg

#x up::MsgBox Hello World!
::btw::by the way
myMsg:
MsgBox %myvar%

AutoIt code:
Code:
; hotstring cannot be implemented
#include <Misc.au3>
HotKeySet("#w", "MyHelloWorldFunc")
MsgBox(0, "Title", "Text")
MsgBox(0, @ScriptName, "test")
Global $myvar
$myvar = StringStripWS("               This is a test", 3)
While True
    $myvar = "This" & myvar & "is a test"
    If $myvar <> "ThisThisThis is a testis a testis a test" Then
        ; nothing
    Else
        myFunc()
        ExitLoop
    EndIf
WEnd
Exit

Func MyHelloWorldFunc()
    While _IsPressed(0x5B) Or _IsPressed(0x5C)
    WEnd
    While _IsPressed(0x58)
    WEnd
    MsgBox(0, @ScriptName, "Hello World!")
EndFunc

Func myFunc()
    MsgBox(0, @ScriptName, $myvar)
EndFunc


And other thing: Is AutoIt3 open source? No. Is AutoHotkey open source? Yes. Can I write some code (thing that I am doing) for the last AutoHotkey source code? Yes. Can I do the same, but with AutoIt3? No. See the difference?
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 8:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

2 AutoScriptKey creater, Guest and other sh*theads
What is going on here ?

Did somebody on AU3 forum launched campaign against AHK? Cuz suddenly I can see bunch of freaks attacking from every side a community that was until recently peaceful place. So you can later link this topic to spread stories to other poor people like you in the manner "look how I told them".

Or is it periodic like year season's ? Something in the constelation of stars and moon phase make, otherwise nice AU3 people become insane zombies that wonder around AHK place reviving old and forgoten things and attacking passer-bys

I am not going to waste my precious time discussing the worst things this planet has to offer, but I can't go without underscoring some of the greatest bullsht I heard so far:

AutoScriptKey creator wrote:
Autoit v3 has thousands more commands than ahk

And RISC processors have only few commands compared to CISC processor. I didn't recall anybody in the history of computing announce that RISC was acctually creted by n00bs that didn't know how to steal more then few commands from CISC team.

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Take a look at forums of autoit , you ll see 20000 more users

Yeh, and again, Britny Spears is the best! There is no such music in the world, its just gordgeous, its beautiful harmony. On the other hand again, Coltrane is some low level scam who stole saxophone from Britny and nobody knows what kind of music is that.

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and experts, and lots of help

It shows Laughing

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what can be done with ahk in 5 lines can be done much shorter in AutoItv3

LOL. Rolling Eyes
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Thalon



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 9:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

AutoScriptKey creator wrote:
Why use autoit instead of ahk?
Autoit v3 has thousands more commands than ahk with com support, IE, web based, ActiveX, dlls and lots of other features (mostrly UDFs created by autoit users)
Ah you still think more commands is better?
You just don't see that most of all tasks can be done with the few commands, why to spend the time to learn thousands, when it can be done with about 300? (as AHK has about)
I think it does take longer to find the one right command in AU3, than to write 2 commands in AHK to do the same - and performance will still be on AHKs side Laughing

AutoScriptKey creator wrote:
instead ahk is just a copy of the source code by someone with lack of abilities (this is why ahk has such a few features and not been developed further from the Autoit v2 [dos commands])
This isn't true. In my country you could get problems with the police for sentences like this.

AutoScriptKey creator wrote:
what can be done with ahk in 5 lines can be done much shorter in AutoItv3
Can you give me some examples?

AutoScriptKey creator wrote:
Take a look at forums of autoit , you ll see 20000 more users
Quote:
Our members have made a total of 376,264 posts
We have 21,606 registered members
Quote:
Our users have posted a total of 134137 articles
We have 5722 registered users
You should try to use the correct values. 5722 and "20.000" more users does result in a difference of 4116 users. If all your statements are funded like this one I will just read them for fun (okay, I do already).

AutoScriptKey creator wrote:
You want to compare scripts??? look in au3 forums in the example scripts section. you will find outstanting scripts , great udfs and deticated community scripters... and then take a look at ahk forums .... Pfffff
If I want to see great scripts, I will truly not visit the AU3-Forum. I would switch to a more powerful language...
Do you do this kind of propaganda in Python-Forums (or Delphi-Script, or Lua, ....) too? I don't hope so it's funny to read all your texts here...
Otherwise: Please give me some links Smile


AutoScriptKey creator wrote:
Much more people know AutoIt and use it , ahk is just a wortherless copy
I like Smikkel's posting to answer this Smile
Gericom-Stuff is bought by many peoples. I wouldn't even take it for free.
Most peoples are using the first thing they see without comparison. So I'm happy to have a smaller community with nice and competitive support, missing the mandatory of dumb users Cool

AutoScriptKey creator wrote:
Autoit managed to get special in a world that programming languages are as many as spoken languages
Shocked
I wouldn't call this few users to be something special...

Thanks for your posting, it's always fun to see people wasting their time with unfunded recriminations. Yes, I like laughing about you Very Happy

As a final question:
Do you really don't find anything more than web-support to upper AU3 over AHK?
In this case I see a bigger language with lesser features and lower performance...
The main feature I really see is to embed it in other languages (as we have done with about 10 lines in python). But little and fast applications are all written in AHK or bigger ones in C# here. I really don't see any reason for AU3 Wink

Thalon, who wants to have more Very Happy
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 7:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear AutoScriptKey creator, I am not going into to fight you, but asking why attacking AutoHotkey? What is your ambition? If you want compare AHK and AU3, please do it without flaming.

Before I started with AHK, I compared AHK against AU3, and I choosed AHK. Currently, AU3 has some advantages to AHK, thats right. But AHK has also advantages, don`t forget this, please. Thats all what I have to say.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 9:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

majkinetor wrote:
I can see bunch of freaks attacking from every side a community that was until recently peaceful place.
No, there is only one (maybe two) trolls, hiding behind anonymous postings. Why do you all feed it?

This troll sounds like a high school dropout, who has no idea about programming, lacks basic logic and does not know, how to put together consistent arguments. Don't waste our time on this!

If there was a meaningful comparison, some task, which was possible in one language, but not (or only in much more complicated way) in the other, that we can discuss. More features means larger code, so one could decide, which tradeoff is best for his needs. But, so far, all this stupid attacks contained only lies, misconceptions and inconsistent statements. Let us ignore them, and do something useful instead!
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 9:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

to AutoScriptKey

I used both before, and I have chosen Autohotkey.
Do you think we(ahk users) don't know about Autoit at all?
we know Autoit is a great tool or language and spend some time with it.
But finally we turned to Autohotkey and still stay with AutoHotkey.
What does it tell you?
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