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crxvfr



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 12:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

....sorry, not going to read thru seven pages to make the comment that popped to mind when I read the title, so if I repeat somebody (you?), oops.

I think AHK is the greatest. People that watch the scripts we use at work stare and wonder, if not ask, how we are doing that. I tell everybody about it. ...the computer people I talk to at work, Fed-x, UPS, hosts, coders, cheats, ...its great for everybody! Smile Most people only pretend to be listening, too bad. ...I've often wondered how many ahk script live on the computers at microsoft.

You have to write a script to open your mind to the possibilities. I've had coders look at the things my scripts do and want to hire me instead of learn it for themselves. What they don't understand is how far just a basic knowledge of it will take you.

I read one post where somebody mentioned that sometimes it can't do fast. Maybe, but it certainly helps you to do MOST things faster. It has saved about 10 positions where I work. Thats 10 employees we didn't have to hire to process stuff by hand. (they are tight, and still using old unix management software that doesn't blend with windows)

These scripts can be a very valuable commodity and I have thought about selling them. ......er um, the way I would do it is sell a service. AHK is free (makes me do a reality check every time I say that). Charge them (exorbitantly maybe) for the time it takes to write, administer and maintain or update the script. Its not as complicated as licenses, copyrights, etc. If your worried about protection, I'm not sure but if you give them a compiled exe, ...to backwards engineer it would be more of a pain than just writing something that copies its functionality. (?) I don't know, but if you make money by using AHK, don't forget to feed the machine. I wish I could write a big fat check from my employer, hehe. ....just kidding, but seriously, stuck with the scraps. (that sounds like something you should see a doctor for!)
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mailsummit2000



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 24, 2008 1:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are 7 pages on this topic, but the only question that matters has not yet been answered:

Are programs made with AutoHotKey then compiled to an *.exe, are they legal to sell?

Such as, $5.00 cash for a CD (each cd containing the exe and a license, which checks on the internet if its a valid unpirated copy.)

Yes/No Idea
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Lexikos



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 24, 2008 2:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chris wrote:
Litmus Red wrote:
Any executable you make using AutoHotkey is also under the GNU public license, because the executable contains code from a GNU-protected application. Right?

No, because the EXE doesn't contain AutoHotkey's source code. Therefore, when you distribute a compiled script, you're not distributing any GPL source, and thus your application isn't subject to the GPL unless you want it to be.

In other words, when you build an app with AutoHotkey, there are no restrictions on selling it, nor do you have to release your script's source code. This is because it is similar in principle to having built the app with a GPL C++ compiler.

Chris wrote:
You can use exe2ahk to extract the plain text script from a compiled script if you provide the right password. This supports the fact that the interpreter and the script are two separate things rather than a derivative work.

Chris wrote:
I've already given my views on the subject. It's my wish that anyone can sell their own scripts in compiled form (of course, it's clear that anyone can sell them in uncompiled form).

However, in my opinion the GPL is murky on some points, especially those having to do with when and what it "infects". If you have concern about it, it's probably best that you seek advice from someone with greater GPL expertise, especially in the realm of legal precedents that clarify the GPL.

Is that enough answer for you? Rolling Eyes
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mailsummit2000



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 24, 2008 2:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmm yepp thanks, I think ill sell my programs for about $5 CASH a pop (at school lol)

but how sure are you on this? out of 100%
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Krogdor



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 24, 2008 2:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Since Chris, who created the program, says it's okay to sell, I'd say you can definitely sell.
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mailsummit2000



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 24, 2008 2:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

oh that guy with the name "Chris" was the programmer of AutoHotKey Itself? Embarassed
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Krogdor



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 24, 2008 2:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yup.
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Lexikos



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 24, 2008 2:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd add that although Chris has given permission, small parts of AutoHotkey were written by other people, so it isn't definite. It has been discussed...
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mailsummit2000



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 24, 2008 2:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

gaah, there's always like exceptions and long explanations to everything, all people want is Yes/No
But cant have that in real life can we.

I guess ill ask my computer teachers in school
on the other hand, no ones really gonna know if the transaction is in Cash eh?
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Krogdor



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 24, 2008 3:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, let's say this. It is probably (but not surely) 100% fine to sell programs written in AHK.

Whether or not it is, I don't think there is anyone who is going to persecute you Razz With Chris, the main programmer/maintainer, being completely willing to allow people to sell, it seems unlikely that you are going to get into any trouble. Especially if you're just selling it to your friends at school...
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mailsummit2000



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 24, 2008 3:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

yipp but once business takes off, ill post up posters about it at laundry places and public places hehe =)

but for now, just a $5 cash
and if I doo get in trouble, what can I expect anyone know?

p.s. thanks you guys, I really appreciate the replies Surprised
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