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AEN007 · Joined: 04 Apr 2009 Posts: 129

18December2009

Greetings.
I'm wondering about some aspects of AHK's window identifying ...

WinTitles have a WinTitle & an ahk_class.
I would like to quickly be able to identify XP popup windows
of the #32768, #32770, #32771 classes with NO TITLE.
I don't yet know how one could use AHK
to find windows whose WinTitle := ""

Is there some way to use "and" or "or" or some way
to specify multiple/independent Exclude WinTitle/WinText criteria?
Maybe like
IfWinExist, Firefox ahk_class MFF, , gMail or AOL

I've tried using
WinGet, WS2wc, Count, , , ahk_class #32771
or
WinGet, WS2wc, Count, , , ahk_class #32768
but
WinGet, WS2wc, Count, , , ahk_class #32771
or
WinGet, WS2wc, Count, , , ahk_class #32768
have not been excluding the #class windows ...
maybe the WinDelay (@ 0) is set too fast?

Any helpful replies/insights appreciated.
Thank you.
Regards,
AEN
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AEN007 · Joined: 04 Apr 2009 Posts: 129

20December2009

Still hoping to sometime / somehow clarify these questions.
I don't understand the reply/example.
Where is this technique documented?
In any case that question - restated - is
(How) Can one specify multiple exclude criteria?
If WinExist Firefox but not gMail & not AOL?

What about identifying/counting windows whose WinTitle := ""

WinGet, co, Count, , , ahk_class Notepad
is not excluding Notepad windows.
WinGet, co, Count is not excluding any windows that I specify ...

Any helpful replies/insights appreciated.
Thank you.
Regards,
AEN
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[VxE] · Joined: 07 Oct 2006 Posts: 3254 Location: Simi Valley, CA

It's possible that AHK Groups may be of interest to you. Alternatively, you can retrieve a list of HWNDs to several windows, and use the other WinGet* commands to get extra information about each window, and narrow down the list with that.
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AEN007 · Joined: 04 Apr 2009 Posts: 129

21December2009

Greetings.
Thanks for the reply.
I have not yet had time to consider the responses ...
but I have made some "WinGet, co, Count" progress ...
WinGet, co, Count
is not functionally equivalent to
WinGet, co, Count, , , , ,

I cannot (yet) explain why or even how the second example functions,
but the second example retrieves about 60% of the windows
that the first example does - which retrieves ALL NON-HIDDEN windows.

The second example does not count the Mozilla Firefox browser ...
for example, among other excluded windows -
including many POPUP type (#32768, #32771 ...) which have no title.

Anyone who knows something about this?
This is not the first time I have encounted different/arbitray behaviors
depending on how many trailing commas there are ...

My original questions still remain as well ...

Any helpful replies/insights appreciated.
Thank you.
Regards,
AEN
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AEN007 · Joined: 04 Apr 2009 Posts: 129

3January2010

Greetings.
I wish the AHK Forum was as awesome as AHK is ...

Any helpful/replies insights appreciated.
Thank you.
Regards,
AEN
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a_h_k · Joined: 02 Feb 2008 Posts: 626

AEN007 · Joined: 04 Apr 2009 Posts: 129

5January2010

Greetings.
"1 too many" commas is not necessarily correct, it seems to me.
How many commas, brackets, etc ... the bane of scripting ...

WinRestore ahk_class OpWindow
WinRestore, ahk_class OpWindow
WinRestore, ahk_class OpWindow,
WinRestore, ahk_class OpWindow, , ,
WinRestore, ahk_class OpWindow, , , ,

are all functionally equivalent ...

WinMove, ahk_class AutoHotkey2, , , , %SpScW%, 23
is not functionally equivalent to the following»
WinMove, ahk_class AutoHotkey2, , , , %SpScW%, 23,
WinMove, ahk_class AutoHotkey2, , , , %SpScW%, 23, SpImOn
... at least that is what I have found ...

In any case I'm not complaining about how
WinGet, co, Count, , , , ,
functions. I don't want to count (most of) the windows it excludes.

WinSize2 is available at SourceForge ... written with AHK ...
I used WS2 for a year & then finally realized how to write my own.
I used absolutely no AHK script from WS2.
I only converted the(my) "data" in the ini file to an AHK data/script file.
I don't want to "compete" with WS2, however ...
I just wanted my own WS2 script that would do exactly what I want ...

I haven't had time, yet, to look at the other scripts you posted.

Any helpful/replies insights appreciated.
Thank you.
Regards,
AEN
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a_h_k · Joined: 02 Feb 2008 Posts: 626

I have done some testing, & it appears that WinGet...ExludeTitle cannot use ahk_class or ahk_group

And this claim of mine is backed-up by... (found this in forum) Smile

AEN007 · Joined: 04 Apr 2009 Posts: 129

6March2010

Greetings.
Many thanks for the reply ...

I recently decided to switch back to
WinGet, WS2a1, Count
from
WinGet, WS2a1, Count, , , , ,
because I now know a better way to exclude
windows from the Count that I don't want counted
(e.g., ahk_class #32768, ahk_class #32771, ahk_class BaseBar,
ahk_class ComboLBox, ahk_class tooltips_class32 ... ),
and my script is more effective with a Count that counts all non-hidden windows ...

AEN007 · Joined: 04 Apr 2009 Posts: 129

20March2010

Greetings.

I would still like to know how AHK could identify Windows
that have no Title - only an ahk_class (e.g., #32768 & etc ...)
I have tried RegEx MatchMode but still not (yet) succeeded.
Also, how could AHK identify files with no extenstion? e.g., IfExist, *.

Any helpful replies/insights appreciated.
Thank you.
Regards,
AEN
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MasterFocus · Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2010 6:20 pm Post subject:

- SetTitleMatchMode
- Other Usages of the WinTitle Parameter
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Leef_me · Posted: Sun Mar 21, 2010 3:58 am Post subject:

What about the WinText parameter ?

http://www.autohotkey.com/docs/commands/WinGetText.htm
WinGetText, OutputVar [, WinTitle, WinText, ExcludeTitle, ExcludeText]

>>Also, how could AHK identify files with no extenstion? e.g., IfExist, *.
That is impossible as an Ahk command.
It would have to be a written script to read the file and somehow figure out what program generated the file.

AEN007 · Joined: 04 Apr 2009 Posts: 129

29March2010

Greetings.

Thanks for the replies, but I have not discerned any solution from the suggestions.
If someone knows the/an answer, maybe they could just spell it out???

Right now I only know of an indirect, two-step way to identify windows with no title.

WinGetTitle, WT
then
If (WT = "")
but I would like to be able to ID titleless windows directly in
IfWinExist, IfWinActive or If WinExist()/WinActive() & etc ...

"DOS" could/does ID files with no extension; e.g., Dir *.
I can't believe AHK cannot.

Any helpful replies/insights appreciated.
Thank you.
Regards,
AEN
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emmanuel d · Joined: 29 Jan 2009 Posts: 436 Location: Belgium

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