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Eedis



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 11:20 am    Post subject: Patterns in the Help forum... Reply with quote

There has been quite a few INI questions going around on Ask For Help, or is it just me?
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 1:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You'd be amazed at the bizarre spurts of questions that show up in the forums from time to time. Another right now is people wanting to extract digits from a string and perform math on them. I can't remember the last time anyone has asked about that at all, much less three times (since yesterday).
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 2:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sinkfaze wrote:
You'd be amazed at the bizarre spurts of questions that show up in the forums from time to time. Another right now is people wanting to extract digits from a string and perform math on them. I can't remember the last time anyone has asked about that at all, much less three times (since yesterday).


Its funny. I thought I was nuts myself, but it is like a cycle. I see it frequently myself.

I have even had an issue with something random, gone online and seen 4 other posts about the same exact thing.


Secretly, this community only has 7 members, each with 54 personalitys each.

So half of the posts you see are just the same few members expressing there multiple personallities. Twisted Evil
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 3:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Laughing
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 5:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yep, I feel that I'm on dejavu.

Asked about same thing again and again, and also the user who answers to the topic is the same user again and again... =)

And I see that a lot of new users are too lazy to search on the helpfile first before asking on the forum, also they want us to make a script for them, mostly for games. Hmm...

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 9:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Then, who I am? or ... better who I am not?

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Building a new FAQ based on the frequently asked questions in this forum would be a nice idea. I wanted to do that, but it is too much working for me.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 10:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.autohotkey.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=309020#309020 wrote
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... what I meant was not a script for people ASKING question, but for people ANSWERING them, we all get tired of looking up links, searching the forums, answering the same questions again and again so it would be useful to have a tool that would help to answers faqs. Of course start with the AHK FAQ and expand on that with stuff like engunneer's home thread http://www.autohotkey.com/forum/topic21919.html

The FAQ is stored in the wiki (noobs wont read it) but the script pulls the data from there for easy update/copy/paste

Edit: basically the structure & script is already there if you would use Scriptlet Library http://www.autohotkey.com/forum/topic2510.html all you would need is a way to maintain and exchange the ini which is probably something that is best done via the Wiki + a script that would download the Wiki page and reformat it to the INI format of the Scriptlet Library e.g. an "update faq now"

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 06, 2010 3:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Idk about everyone else, but I feel special when one of my threads gets linked to.
I need to get started on that script, the one to answer questions that you ask it.
Maybe a 20 question sort of thing? Where it filters down till it hits an answer, and when it quits it will resort to creating an AFH topic.
I will possibly create such a script this weekend.
Any flowchart help would be nice...

EXAMPLE:
Game Macro>Fails to acknowledge>Worked as desired in Notepad>Attempted "Send Play">ANSWER: Try "SetKeyDelay", [Example code]
I don't wish to hijack this thread so I will create my own.
Sorry if I seem to have strayed off topic but this is General Chat after all... Smile
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 06, 2010 4:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think they should split the Ask For Help forum down into several sub forums. That'd also help us helpers help better. (That was a lot of 'help' words. XD)

Most of the time when I get on the Ask For Help forum with the intent solely on helping other's, I only read the threads that I know about. If the forum was split down into several subforums. I could go to the subforum that I know most about and be able to help in almost all the threads. How it is now, I just have to pick a thread out of a bunch.

We could also have a subforum pertaining to games, since there are A LOT of questions about game macros.

Ideas for different subforums. Obviously taken straight from the help document.
Code:
-Ask For Help-
--Game Macros
--File Management
--Flow of Control
--Functions
--GUI, MsgBox, InputBox
--Math Commands
--Keyboard Control
--Mouse Control
--Process Management
--Registry Management
--Sound Commands
--String Management
--Window Management
--Variables and Expressions
--HotKeys

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 06, 2010 7:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Eedis wrote:
split the Ask For Help forum down into several sub forums.
That won't happen I think because people already post in the wrong forum now (scripts, bugs, wish) and newbies might not know their problem is related to "mouse" or "flow of control". More subforums has been discussed before and the mods didn't like it afaik. (me neither btw)
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 06, 2010 10:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Code:
problems += countOfSubforums * wrongSectionPosts

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 06, 2010 3:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ace Coder wrote:
Idk about everyone else, but I feel special when one of my threads gets linked to.
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your topic, my script. Wink
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 06, 2010 4:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmhm... So what can I do to help?
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 07, 2010 9:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Eedis wrote:
I think they should split the Ask For Help forum down into several sub forums.

Not necessarily a bad idea, but what if somebody wants to ask a question about a Function that plays a Sound found in the Registry, after processing the found String. Of course, this function being called by a HotKey... Smile

In the Processing forum, there are specialized forums for OpenGL, Sound, etc.
Yet you find most questions in the Syntax forum. Partly, I think, because people have no idea of what syntax is, partly because they are too lazy to read the section descriptions, and most probably because that's the first sub-section in the Questions section (some even ask questions in the Exhibition section because that's the first one of the forum...).

A system of tags like those in Stack Overflow might be more efficient, but people often fails at finding significant tags, too (or even proper subjects: how often I see something like "Help me please"? Sight).
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 10, 2010 1:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Last week INI questions this week: chat/network/TCP/IP posts. What shall it be next week... stay tuned Wink
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