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dieguti · Guest

I'm afraid I was a little dumb.
With the first column it orders by access, and in the first execution I changed the order to Window.
It works like a charm, thank you.

robiandi · Guest

robiandi · Guest

As for my part I could meanwhile "repair" these places (about 5 occurences)

evl · Joined: 24 Aug 2005 Posts: 1234

Thanks for pointing it out. I've fixed it now. Not quite sure why, but all instances of "%Ac" had been replaced by "¬".

skrommel · Joined: 30 Jul 2004 Posts: 190

Great script, evl. However, it couchs up an error message when Alt-Tabing and there's no windows.

Skommel

evl · Joined: 24 Aug 2005 Posts: 1234

@ skrommel:
Thanks, I was kind of aware of this problem - I tried to prevent it a bit by not allowing to exclude all windows, but hadn't done anything about if there were no windows - some people are just awkward Laughing

I'll try and fix it.

I'm in the process of working on a major change to how groups of windows are stored/loaded/included/excluded - it will allow for including/excluding certain windows based on (partial) title or exe name.... which means these can be remembered and re-applied between sessions (unlike filtering based on window id's, which change with each instance of a program).

Rainy-Day · Joined: 01 Jan 2006 Posts: 55

Especially docking.. that's the feature I think I will soon not know how I lived without. I see that you made it more robust since the last time I used this. The only problem I noticed is that when I minimize Outlook, the last used (or maybe last created) docked app is popped up, and when I move the mouse outside of it, outlook is automatically restored back from being minimized..

Thanks for the script..
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evl · Joined: 24 Aug 2005 Posts: 1234

That behaviour is generally intended (although not exactly desirable): Windows is activating the next app (docked in this case) when you miminise a window (normal windows behaviour, nothing to do with the script) and I decided that it would be dangerous to allow a docked window to be active without showing it automatically (in case you start typing in a hidden window without realising it) and when a docked window loses focus it switches back to the previously active window.

Perhaps I can work around this a bit by checking (when a docked window loses focus) if the previously active window was minimised and activate the taskbar instead (something has to have focus) - I'll look into it tho I've been messing around with a few other things as well as re-working the loading/saving of windows lists in the Alt-Tab replacement.

Always glad to hear that people find it useful and will try to fix any annoying problems like this if it's possible.

Micha · Joined: 15 Nov 2005 Posts: 500 Location: Germany

Hi,
one small difference between the original M$ <alt-tab> and your great replacement is chasing me every day.

I used to open the <alt-tab> taskswitcher of windows to look if a special process has finished. The process changes the color of the icon. I do not want to switch to the process, I only want to know it it has finished.
Thus I press <ALT-TAB> to see the color and to close the dialog without switching. I click outside the dialog with my mouse to close it.

Now the difference:
Windows is closing the dialog,
Your script keeps the dialog open.

I know that I could press ESC while holding the <ALT>-key but I'm used to use the mouse.

If nobody has reasons agains that chance I'm looking forward to the new version of the script.

Ciao
Micha

evl · Joined: 24 Aug 2005 Posts: 1234

@ Micha: Yep, I've run into this a couple of times too. I think I can fix this fairly easily by making the left and right mouse buttons hotkeys while the main alt-tab window is open and gosub the alt-esc label if a click is not in the gui.

Rainy-Day · Joined: 01 Jan 2006 Posts: 55

The problem with this is that you really can't get to the desktop easily, then. The thing is, docked window is like a minimized window. It's practically a more advanced form of minimization, a 'quicker minimization', if you will. I think it should be treated as such in all ways. You can in fact actually minimize the window and just leave a small band on the side that will restore the window.. I don't know too much about AHK yet so I don't know if that's easy to do or not.. Maybe another way would be not to have anything of use on desktop? Or start an explorer and go to desktop and switch to it instead of doing 'minimize all'? This isn't a big deal, but I think you might run into other issues because of treating docked windows as active, whereas they're essentially minimized.. But at the same time, you might want to stick to that if it makes the code much simpler.
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evl · Joined: 24 Aug 2005 Posts: 1234

@ Rainy-Day: I haven't had time to look at it yet (hopefully a bit later today I can make a start) but what I was proposing with the docking behaviour shouldn't affect whether you can get to the desktop or not, only not to un-minimise the window that was active before the docked one - but when the docked window loses focus, something else needs the focus. Giving focus to the taskbar (assuming it's possible, which it should be) shouldn't affect the state of any other windows or if the desktop is displayed. This should pretty much immitate the behaviour of windows (sometimes no windows seem to have focus - I guess something has focus though, just not any of the windows/desktop on the screen).

evl · Joined: 24 Aug 2005 Posts: 1234

... Oh and I had considered using small guis to display a border where the window was and then just hide the window or move it completely off screen, but that adds a fair bit of complexity to the code and didn't really seem worth it (it also stops windows from getting lost off screen in case something bad should happen).

Rainy-Day · Joined: 01 Jan 2006 Posts: 55

When you have mouse over one, the docked window goes into docked-away mode. I now remember that's the reason I decided to wait on this script a while ago. Is there anything can be done about this? maybe I could help? Thx..
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evl · Joined: 24 Aug 2005 Posts: 1234

Hi again - can you check you're definitely using the latest version of the script (the link on the 1st post always points to the latest).

Can you give me a step by step guide of what the problem is exactly in case I'm misunderstanding? What should happen when a docked window is being viewed and then the mouse moves outside of it, is that the docked window auto-hides and the previously active window is given focus.