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I'll go to work right away!
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I'll keep it in mind.
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No, thanks - I think it's fine the way it is.
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Sorry, too busy.
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Ace_NoOne



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 05, 2006 4:13 pm    Post subject: The AHK wiki needs YOU! Reply with quote

While searching the forums, I often stumble across many highly useful scripts and functions. This shows that there's a huge wealth of ready-made code available in the depths of these forums.
However, these resources are often hard to find - especially if you're not consciously aware of them.
Chris wrote:
Perhaps what the AHK project needs is volunteers to work on specific areas such as the script showcase and the library of includable functions (for distribution with the program).
However, things like [that] can be very time-consuming, so I expect qualified volunteers to be in short supply.
(source: http://www.autohotkey.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=46407#46407)

No offense, Chris, but I guess you're underestimating your disciples a little...
So let's give something back by establishing some kind of order here. This would be pretty easy too, since we already got all the necessary tools - namely, the AHK wiki! As Chris has mentioned, the two most important pages there right now are the Functions Section and the Scripts Section.

If/When you come across something you thing should be indexed and archived, please take a minute to add it to the lists there. (Do stick to the proper style though, please, as a chaotic collection is not a very useful collection.)

Thanks for your support!


PS: Sticky, please!?


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Chris
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 05, 2006 4:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the call to action.

I've made a note to make this (or something like it) sticky later. But at the moment, I'm feeling reluctant because there are so many sticky topics in the Scripts forum.
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toralf



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 05, 2006 4:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I added some of my scripts
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Laszlo



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 05, 2006 6:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is hard to guess, what is useful for others. Also, there are only a handful users, who are interested in something more than speeding up their favorite game.

Take my base64 codex. Someone asked for it, so I posted a script, but never received any feedback. Looks like nobody is interested. When a script is new, there could be a few replies, but soon it sinks to oblivion, except the sticky ones, like Rajat's Smart GUI Creator. A wiki might make a search easier, but only those users would search it, who have no difficulties in finding topics in the Forum.
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Titan



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 05, 2006 6:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The wiki presents the scripts in a list. If a short description is added aswell, it would help users browse through and decide what they like - like a catalog. But this ofcourse requires people to actually be bothered to take a look in the first place.

So for the points you mentioned, I agree with you said Laszlo.
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PhiLho



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2006 1:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some thoughts:

- Laszlo: I believe your general algorithm scripts, like Base64, are interesting, at least to illustrate that complex algorithms can be acheived in AHK.
The fact you didn't had feedback doesn't mean that nobody uses it (althought their field of application is a bit narrow, indeed...).
And I think that putting them in a semi-official list is good and improve their exposure.

- The list of scripts is already large and will grow, maybe it would be useful to already split it in several pages, one per theme.

- The list of functions is a bit short, and some, like most math functions or "Replace character in string", are outdated (already in AHK now).

- Perhaps official links to these pages would help their visibility and their utility. Official means in www.autohotkey.com main pages, not only in the forum. BTW, I wonder why the wiki link is smaller than the others (perhaps because it doesn't have much material right now), and I notice it is absent of the others pages (tutorial, doc., etc.).
I also see that on the Wiki main page, there is a "Complete Scripts" link that have been hijacked by a single script, and I see no link to the "Script" page (I cannot change that, it is protected).
Helping these points would address Laszlo and Titan concerns.

I will add my scripts shortly...

PS: Editing a random page for testing (we should add a Sandbox page for such usage), I found, in the http://autohotkey.com/wiki/index.php?title=Command_Line_Utilities page, strangely a lot of empty lines at the end of the article. Scrolling down, I saw a lot of links like http;//www.s e x.pumag.net/index112.htm or http;//www.ce le bri ties.pumag.net/index159.htm (I altered these links to deactivate them, no need to add more spam...).
I removed them, of course, but whichever has the rights on the Wiki should check if there are more of these.
The links were hidden by a div section: <div auth="green" style="overflow:auto;height:1px;"> (is HTML accepted in this Wiki?)
That's bad to see spam is inundating Wikis too, even those requiring login to edit. Well, it was not exactly spam (ie. ads targetting users) but Google spamming (adding links to a site to improve its page rank).
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Chris
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2006 5:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

PhiLho wrote:
I removed [the spam], of course, but whichever has the rights on the Wiki should check if there are more of these.
Those were probably early spam prior to the time when I started checking the wiki weekly. I will continue to monitor the wiki for spam; but if you spot any more old spam, please feel free remove it.

Thanks.
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deguix



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PostPosted: Sat Feb 25, 2006 6:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The wiki could also allow to upload ahk files and zip files, so that it wouldn't be required to post the files anywhere else.

I could work on the AHK wiki for a while and upload scripts, but there has to be an effort to make codes in forums more clean and in an "article based" style. Also, every piece of code and contribution should have their own pages. Secondly, as posts can be edited in an unlimited time after the original post, either will first post only link to the wiki page and the wiki page have a link to it, or will use the same text as in the wiki, and also having crosslinks.

Wiki extensions:

NiceCategoryList extension - Lists pages in categories more nicely in a page, so all pages should link to categories so automatic script listing is done. Categories cannot be renamed, so they have to be carefully organized first - major AHK code types and the utility programs. Lists can also be done manually if you wish, but I won't keep maintaining those forever.

GeSHi extension (there are several of same type - I need to get the name of the best one used in another wiki) - Syntax highlights scripts. There's no AHK highlighting yet, but I can add one if you wish.

SpamBlacklist extension - Won't let to save a page with spam urls.
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Chris
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 25, 2006 1:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

deguix wrote:
The wiki could also allow to upload ahk files and zip files
I presume this is easy to enable if it isn't already (I'm still a wiki novice).

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I could work on the AHK wiki for a while and upload scripts, but there has to be an effort to make codes in forums more clean and in an "article based" style.
Maybe it's best to link from a hypothetical wiki script index directly into the forum for each script (similar to the existing Catalogue of All Scripts). This is because having a duplicate copy of each script on the wiki seems like it would be too much maintainence. Finally, I think a lot of people are more comfortable using the forum due to their inexperience with wiki publishing. This applies to me too, but I intend to get more familiar with it.

Another issue is database space for the forum and wiki, which at the moment is quite limited. This should be resolved in the next month or two when autohotkey.com is rehosted.

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NiceCategoryList extension - Lists pages in categories more nicely in a page, so all pages should link to categories so automatic script listing is done.
Sounds good; I've made a note to look into it.

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There's no AHK highlighting yet, but I can add one if you wish.
Syntax highlighting would be great, but it's probably not worth it for you to spend a lot of time on it until the number of scripts in the wiki gets much larger.

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SpamBlacklist extension - Won't let to save a page with spam urls.
Sounds nice; I'll look into it.

Your continued help with the wiki is greatly appreciated.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 25, 2006 4:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

(Laughing Man here) We could have scripts on the forums be recommended to put on the Wiki. And if the author gives permission (or he/she chooses to do so himself/herself) we could have the coding fixed up to be more user friendly. More documentation at the top for example.
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