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:+1:

I moved a few from Offtopic -> General, all those were on page 1. since they were on page 1 I decided to leave a shadow/redirect in Offtopic. I'll do more later, they probably won't get the redirect treatment since they are already fairly hidden.

"seems like they would then choose something under AutoHotkey (from the Board Index), and be more specific"

and what if that thing isn't a script, ask for help, bug report, etc?
but you know, like:
webinars
... not listing them all again. as shown in the spoilers here: https://www.autohotkey.com/boards/viewtopic.php?p=179748#p179748

its general off-topic / misc discussions that are ahk related, but fit nowhere else.
"off topic" in an AHK forum would be non-ahk chat. all of the ones pointed out above, and many many many more, are very AHK related.

Idk myself :|
I just added it, no one had spoken against it :/

Sorry, but I don't understand "General Discussion". We have "Off Topic", so don't they serve the same purpose, in terms of non code related discussions? If a person wants to discuss something other than about programming, wouldn't they go to "Off Topic" to do that? If they want to discuss something related to AutoHotkey, it seems like they would then choose something under AutoHotkey (from the Board Index), and be more specific.

When making threads in "Off Topic", it at least makes it clear what's going on, and where things can be discussed that don't deal with code. Lastly, "Off Topic" is under the section heading of "General", when looking at the Board Index, so that seems to kind of insinuate generalized discussion.

Added: AutoHotkey -> General Discussion
https://www.autohotkey.com/boards/viewforum.php?f=81

[quote=joedf post_id=272043 time=1554928465 user_id=55]
Added. :+1:
https://www.autohotkey.com/boards/viewforum.php?f=80
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Looks nice. I think it's great that the C's have their subforums. Over time, hopefully people can focus putting related content in there, versus scattering it all over different parts of the forum. Makes it much easier to read and learn from.

Done! :+1:
Also where exactly should the general ahk go and what is the description text?

Great work adding these new forums, thanks.

Btw what happened to 'General AutoHotkey'?

This post could be moved to ASM:
ASM: ASM (assembly language) to machine code via FASM (flat assembler) - AutoHotkey Community
[url]https://autohotkey.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=49638[/url]

'ASM' and 'C#' could be added to 'Subforum(s):' (for Other Programming Languages), here:
AutoHotkey Community - General
[url]https://www.autohotkey.com/boards/viewforum.php?f=16[/url]

Thanks.

Added. :+1:
https://www.autohotkey.com/boards/viewforum.php?f=80

Yeah indeed - I havent looked into CLR or similar a lot but it seems interesting.
Something I would love to see is a section to discuss the automation of programs build with specific frameworks/languages.
That would probably help people a lot with some starting guidelines that will help them to make clicks work.

[quote=joedf post_id=271681 time=1554730134 user_id=55]
Yeah, I’ve used C# quite a bit in the past... it’s c-like but it’s rather different in most respects :b

We can add C# if everyone is for it. :+1:
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Yes, you should add it. From the previous comments, looks like there is agreement that C# can be part of or have a subforum.

Yeah, I’ve used C# quite a bit in the past... it’s c-like but it’s rather different in most respects :b

We can add C# if everyone is for it. :+1:

[quote=jeeswg post_id=271607 time=1554686947 user_id=74796]
- Since you posted, the C++ subforum was renamed to C/C++.
- I looked through the Other Programming Languages forum, and the most common occurrences were C# and Python.
- I have noticed some CLR (C#) stuff in the past, and reasonably frequent C# stuff on the forum, plus there is IronAHK, and work by lexikos and evilC. So actually, there's a pretty good case for a C# subforum.
- As a side note, since the forum is written in PHP, there could be a PHP subforum.
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The C# related content is everywhere. The more you dig into it, the more there is to find. Plus with C# and .NET showing signs of actually becoming cross-platform, the popularity or people mixing it in will likely pickup.

[quote=nnnik post_id=271632 time=1554711078 user_id=74]
Despite the C in front of its name C# is not that closely related to C.
Putting it into its own subforum rather than the C/C++ forum makes more sense.
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Yes that's correct, but was referring to C# in a more relative sense in comparison to other programming languages. There's just so much C# material on the AutoHotkey forums, that it should be consolidated somewhere. If not with C/C++, then it having it's own subforum could be a good idea.

Despite the C in front of its name C# is not that closely related to C.
Putting it into its own subforum rather than the C/C++ forum makes more sense.

- Since you posted, the C++ subforum was renamed to C/C++.
- I looked through the Other Programming Languages forum, and the most common occurrences were C# and Python.
- I have noticed some CLR (C#) stuff in the past, and reasonably frequent C# stuff on the forum, plus there is IronAHK, and work by lexikos and evilC. So actually, there's a pretty good case for a C# subforum.
- As a side note, since the forum is written in PHP, there could be a PHP subforum.

[quote=joedf post_id=271461 time=1554577652 user_id=55]
I learned C, no so much C++. But I would group them together, because having too many categories would up with wanting more categories, and too many of them defeats the purpose of categories...
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And so debatably C# should be added to the mix, making it C/C++/C#.

I've done some Google digging and have seen a significant amount of C# content often mixed in so many threads. It's about time to put it properly in some place, and it looks like the subforum would be the place. I think there is enough of a connection between these C family languages to warrant them be in the same subforum.

[quote=jeeswg post_id=271463 time=1554578137 user_id=74796]
- For IronAHK, either it could have its own forum, or, we could have a C# forum.
- I asked for a C++ forum, with the AHK source code in mind.
- I would keep C++ and C# completely separate, IMO it would create a mess, and the languages are completely different, but I would consider arguments for combining them.
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I believe C# is a bigger picture perspective in creating cross-platform applications and solutions. In addition, if you go through the help forums and various old AutoHotkey links, you will see a significant amount of C# related content. In fact, the amount of C# related content rivals that of C++, if not more. Many AHK scripters are directly mixing C# code with their AHK scripts to create various kinds of solutions.

C# content shouldn't take away from C++ discussions anymore than C discussions would. There are clear and strong links between the languages, making it easier to understand the others. And the mix of C, C++, and C# would arguably create a diverse and very strong subforum. Instead of just a select few members engaging in that forum, you will likely get higher user views and more engagement, which I would think is partially the point of creating the subforum.

This diversity and increased engagement wouldn't take away from developing talent in working with the AHK source code, if anything, you will now have a wider talent pool (from related programming languages) and increase the eyes looking at AHK source code in the forum. C and C# coders would debatably be the next likely candidates to take an interest in the AHK source code, outside of someone already knowledgeable aobut C++.

[quote=jeeswg post_id=271463 time=1554578137 user_id=74796]
- Re. C, I think people know that C++ infers C/C++. And that C would be something that would be OK to discuss in a C++ forum.[/quote]

Actually, I don't think that's entirely true, when a forum is labelled C++ that those coding in C feel so welcomed. Debatably, those that are C++ coders probably feel comfortable discussing C, but possibly not the other way around and for those that code only in C. So it might be good to clearly indicate that C only discussions or issues are welcomed, without C++ coders demanding they should or must switch over to their preferred language.

Very much appreciate the discussion on this.

Pulover's Macro Creator seems to be a bad example. Although it seems to be a quite good application, for years it doesn't even generate enough interest with the knowledgable AHK crowd as it is, with an own forum.

I think we have to realise that the target group for this recorder is not really the same like the people who are interested in real programming in AHK (the questions in its own forum seem usually quite basic level, but since nobody from the usual help crowd is interested in the macro recorder or didn't use it even once, they don't get answered anyway if not one of the more experienced [i]users of the recorder[/i] comes around.) That's why I doubt that someone would want to take it over... at least there seems to be no one interest to engage with its users (and further development without giving basic support seems pretty pointless)

Hence, it doesn't really fit in the forum - at least in its current state. Its target group is rather the non-programming crowd... well, perhaps there is still hope that a few of these people switch to pure AHK, if their questions don't get a response ;) . So we might leave it as it is :shifty: as long as there is no one else available to host (and support) it.

- @SOTE:
- I feel 'Abandoned Scripts' is too specific.
- Pulover's Macro Creator already has a forum (minus the apostrophe).
- For IronAHK, either it could have its own forum, or, we could have a C# forum.
- I asked for a C++ forum, with the AHK source code in mind.
- I would keep C++ and C# completely separate, IMO it would create a mess, and the languages are completely different, but I would consider arguments for combining them.
- If people wanted to resurrect a script/library, Scripts and Functions would currently be the best place. I think a Collaboration forum is a fair idea, *BUT*, so far I haven't seen *one* AHK collaboration project. Every project is maintained by one person exclusively. If you can think of any exceptions, be my guest and mention them.
- I'm still in favour of a Collaboration forum, but at the moment, no-one's collaborating.

- My reason for singling out ASM, is that ASM is used essentially as standard AHK code in AHK scripts. But it's far better to separate it out from Ask For Help.
- Also:
- ASM is used by multiple languages.
- ASM needs more support/detail than higher-level languages, and is comparatively badly served by existing forums.
- ASM could become a large forum, with the many types of ASM available e.g. FASM, MASM.
- ASM itself is used by the AHK source code.
- The friendliness, relatively large size, and focus on practicality of the AHK forum, plus the difficulty of ASM, could make the AHK forum the best place on the Internet to discuss ASM.

- Any language used by an AutoHotkey fork, could be worthy of a subforum in Other Programming Languages.
- Many of the languages you've mentioned have essentially never been discussed on these forums, unlike C++/ASM.
- Re. C, I think people know that C++ infers C/C++. And that C would be something that would be OK to discuss in a C++ forum.
- Thanks for your post.