Post by SOTE » 22 Jul 2019, 03:38
ahk7 wrote: ↑19 May 2019, 03:31
What problems does it
solve is probably a better question. It is none of Google's (or other third party) business that people visit this website I think - and visitors should be informed (in Europe it would be required to do so + given the option to opt-out). Perhaps it came as default with the cloudflare script. Perhaps you can "opt-out" of those defaults there and only use the script code you need for cloudflare - I see no point at all for a google translate script being loaded to be honest. Hardenize seems new as well? (such info cloudflare/hardenize etc should be in a websites privacy statement). I'm guessing there are quite a few European visitors. Just an observation. Edit: I can understand the need for security measures needed against certain users of course.
tank wrote: ↑20 May 2019, 09:30
I have ALWAYS tracked every visit as it is built into this and most other bulletin boards, so did poly, so did Chris. If you think other sites dont you are naive. but with google analytics i get helpful insights on legit and ill-legit traffic. If you dont like translations that is fine but i have to be able to read all forums. i suspect others do as well. it hurts nothing and at least helps a few. you can always disable it. Hardenize isn't tracking, it scans the site for weaknesses and is a helpful tool for me to keep you safe.
On the point of Google Translate, I kind of thought that was a good idea, since this website has multiple languages. To include that it's use is optional. There appears to be almost no getting around Google anyway, because websites will want to optimize their presence on Google.
I think people understand if visiting the AutoHotkey website, there are cookies or other features that might do tracking. However, most people are probably concerned about 3rd party IP addresses and companies that are performing tracking and data collection. Google and Cloudfare (which the AutoHotkey website uses) is one thing, but other companies (particularly involved in tracking and data collection) would be something else.
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What problems does it [b]solve [/b]is probably a better question. It is none of Google's (or other third party) business that people visit this website I think - and visitors should be informed (in Europe it would be required to do so + given the option to opt-out). Perhaps it came as default with the cloudflare script. Perhaps you can "opt-out" of those defaults there and only use the script code you need for cloudflare - I see no point at all for a google translate script being loaded to be honest. Hardenize seems new as well? (such info cloudflare/hardenize etc should be in a websites privacy statement). I'm guessing there are quite a few European visitors. Just an observation. Edit: I can understand the need for security measures needed against certain users of course.
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[quote=tank post_id=277690 time=1558362634 user_id=48]
I have ALWAYS tracked every visit as it is built into this and most other bulletin boards, so did poly, so did Chris. If you think other sites dont you are naive. but with google analytics i get helpful insights on legit and ill-legit traffic. If you dont like translations that is fine but i have to be able to read all forums. i suspect others do as well. it hurts nothing and at least helps a few. you can always disable it. Hardenize isn't tracking, it scans the site for weaknesses and is a helpful tool for me to keep you safe.
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On the point of Google Translate, I kind of thought that was a good idea, since this website has multiple languages. To include that it's use is optional. There appears to be almost no getting around Google anyway, because websites will want to optimize their presence on Google.
I think people understand if visiting the AutoHotkey website, there are cookies or other features that might do tracking. However, most people are probably concerned about 3rd party IP addresses and companies that are performing tracking and data collection. Google and Cloudfare (which the AutoHotkey website uses) is one thing, but other companies (particularly involved in tracking and data collection) would be something else.