joedf wrote:So this seems to be by design, attachments are removed.
That's still all undisputed, and it seems to be the same for all users. No problem there.
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A potential problem arises for new users (and older users with low post counts), which are subject to certain posting restrictions:
Again, attachments are not the problem, but
drafts.
joedf wrote:Load draft => seems to load the post with the editor as normal
View/Edit => seems to load a simple version editor with the posts markup code
Yes, loading drafts works for "normal", unrestricted accounts - but not for restricted accounts in the
special case of the
first post of a
new topic (in subforums like 'Ask For Help', but not 'Offtopic', according to my tests). The draft just doesn't load.
Probably, you can only reproduce it, if you create a
new test account with restricted posting permissions, like I did with
greg_test.
We could now say that this is just a another restriction that restricted accounts like new users (and old users with low posts) have to to accept for a limited time. That might well be reasonable, as this is just a temporary problem that should disappear for most users very quickly, while on the other hand, it might take a lot of time to investigate and to fix:
It's a feature, not a bug..
Edit: Here is a new user that seems to confirm the problem, they couldn't open a previously saved draft, when creating a new topic ("I had a draft saved up but I cannot access it now so I'll keep it short."):
https://www.autohotkey.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=81167#p353196
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Other problems seem to arise with these (non-BBCode) tags when using '
Manage drafts' from the User Control Panel, even for normal accounts (at least for mod accounts like mine), if you
load a draft after actually editing and saving it before via the 'Manage Draft' menu. Suddenly, you have these additional tags in your post, which don't belong there - and which
don't work with our forum software:
- non BBCode tags.png (10.58 KiB) Viewed 2318 times
This is
not valid BBCode, as you can see; it doesn't get parsed. For a longer post, this gets really messy, real quick
.
This is probably also a function that doesn't get used very often by most users - at least I never used it before (and the error might not appear under all circumstances or in all browsers), although I regularly use drafts in the
full editor without problems - but it's a problem that I can even reproduce with my
moderator account and the 'Manage Drafts' menu.
Again, I personally understand that this might not be high on our priority list, due to restricted resources, but at least I can confirm the buggy behaviour. The fact that no one complained so far, might be another hint for a rather low priority, although it might be especially unfortunate for
fade2gray's posting habits.
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So, perhaps, we should accept - and communicate, if someone asks - that certain forum features, which are rarely used by the majority of users, aren't always guaranteed.
Like I said, the first problem probably only arises for restricted accounts - and a limited time. The second might be a general problem (if it's a general phpBB bug or caused by modifications, I can't say).
[quote="joedf"]So this seems to be by design, attachments are removed.[/quote]That's still all undisputed, and it seems to be the same for all users. No problem there.
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A potential problem arises for new users (and older users with low post counts), which are subject to certain posting restrictions:
Again, attachments are not the problem, but [u]drafts[/u].
[quote="joedf"]Load draft => seems to load the post with the editor as normal
View/Edit => seems to load a simple version editor with the posts markup code[/quote]Yes, loading drafts works for "normal", unrestricted accounts - but not for restricted accounts in the [u]special case[/u] of the [u]first post[/u] of a [c]new topic[/c] (in subforums like 'Ask For Help', but not 'Offtopic', according to my tests). The draft just doesn't load.
Probably, you can only reproduce it, if you create a [color=#FFBF00]new test account[/color] with restricted posting permissions, like I did with [i][color=#FFBF00]greg_test[/color][/i].
We could now say that this is just a another restriction that restricted accounts like new users (and old users with low posts) have to to accept for a limited time. That might well be reasonable, as this is just a temporary problem that should disappear for most users very quickly, while on the other hand, it might take a lot of time to investigate and to fix: [i]It's a feature, not a bug.[/i]. ;)
[color=#BF0000]Edit:[/color] Here is a new user that seems to confirm the problem, they couldn't open a previously saved draft, when creating a new topic ("I had a draft saved up but I cannot access it now so I'll keep it short."): https://www.autohotkey.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=81167#p353196
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Other problems seem to arise with these (non-BBCode) tags when using '[url=https://www.autohotkey.com/boards/ucp.php?i=ucp_main&mode=drafts]Manage drafts[/url]' from the User Control Panel, even for normal accounts (at least for mod accounts like mine), if you [u]load a draft after actually editing and saving it before[/u] via the 'Manage Draft' menu. Suddenly, you have these additional tags in your post, which don't belong there - and which [u]don't work[/u] with our forum software:
[attachment=0]non BBCode tags.png[/attachment]
This is [u]not[/u] valid BBCode, as you can see; it doesn't get parsed. For a longer post, this gets really messy, real quick :problem: .
This is probably also a function that doesn't get used very often by most users - at least I never used it before (and the error might not appear under all circumstances or in all browsers), although I regularly use drafts in the [i]full editor[/i] without problems - but it's a problem that I can even reproduce with my [color=#00BF00]moderator account[/color] and the 'Manage Drafts' menu.
Again, I personally understand that this might not be high on our priority list, due to restricted resources, but at least I can confirm the buggy behaviour. The fact that no one complained so far, might be another hint for a rather low priority, although it might be especially unfortunate for [i]fade2gray[/i]'s posting habits.
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So, perhaps, we should accept - and communicate, if someone asks - that certain forum features, which are rarely used by the majority of users, aren't always guaranteed.
Like I said, the first problem probably only arises for restricted accounts - and a limited time. The second might be a general problem (if it's a general phpBB bug or caused by modifications, I can't say).