I follow now intensive the Ask for help Thread. Its a good thing and its a big part (most posts and Views) of the Forum. The problem is that you cant find a specific thing you want. (Google search mostly picks entries from the old forum what completely messed up any focused search
)
I think there are many reasons why this thread got many many entries what are
50 % could be answered if the user would take a look in the documentation/Tutorial/faq.
25% results of a not really beginner friendly Tutorial added with crazy order inside the Documentation. But i try to fix this and a HowTo is atm under construction
. Thats my opinion. But the messed up Thread confirm me in this.
20 % are "I am Lazy and i want a ready solution"
or user who cant use the Forumsearch within the right options. ohh yeah, doubleposts for the win. No it isnt
5% are really interesting and helpfully topics. But how to locate them. Right, just open a new Topic.
So they get lost in the Haystack. ....
But lets take a look at some search Results.
I leave the search settings as standard. Cause on this way the most user go this way.
After the Slash only in Topic
8453 matches: msgBox / 37 matches: MsgBox
7330 matches: Loop / 209 matches: loop
6451 matches: Window / 335 matches: Window
4314 matches: click / 175 matches: click
3393 matches: open / 71 matches: open
2040 matches: move / 50 matches: move
3980 matches: hotkey / 244 matches: hotkey
3575 matches: Mouse / 249 matches: Mouse
2577 matches: question / 111 matches: question
1880 matches: keyboard /110 matches: keyboard
1328 matches: label / 35 matches: label
5969 matches: problem
/ 207 matches: problem
Sure you have a problem. Otherwise they would post nothing there
just some examples. We know how get a data structure of these things. Especially for the helpthread. but thats not the topic here. I think you got an idea what i want to show here.
Why to restructure now the Help Thread ?
To help everyone to find Topics you want to search.
Prevent of DoublePosts (Solved questions).
Get more active people / active Threads. And this i really one of the things that really could bring the forum into another level. Every one got other knowledges or experience with other Languages.
In the optimal case the nooby get a solution --> from a beginner.
The beginner --> from the advanced user.
The advanced --> from the Experienced
The Experience --> from the HardCore super Swaggy Coders / admins /mods ...
Sometimes i see answers on a simple question that offers a high end solution. Thats ok. But it doesnt help. Cause the beginner dont know to handle object/arrays whatever.
Create now subcategories for different level of Code experience. Very difficult. But maybe interlace the tread into each other. The mods could handle the the movement into the subs.
Main-Thread-Help (nooby-sort out area) - 15 days
Sub - Beginner (no arrays/no object/no com, ahk only , easy functions) - 30 days
Sub - Advanced (ahk only, advanced functions, library based ) - 90 days or more ?
Sub - experienced (other languages (c++,MC,java?,html,..) - no limit
just some thoughts.
Each Thread should get some settings if the topics timeout if they are inactive. ( i know you can do this settings for each topic) So the nooby section clear out itself. The mods got 15 days to answer or get it into the right subsection. This is really important. Maybe here some things gone lost. But i think the pros are better instead of feeding the haystack.
In the end every serious question should be end in a solution on 2 ways.
1.) There is a Explicit answer to the Question what can found in the Documentation or it exist a Solution inside the Scriptsection. --> Topic Close
2. ) There is a Solution integrate into a useful Script. Move into Scriptsection with PreTag. [Solved] Why leave inside the help section. There is no reason.
In the end. Sure it need some time to do it. But in the End it result of a better Forum/Community, cause it catches the user on the level they are atm. A last into a Faster coding process , cause you find what you need. More time for the mods, cause they can help the people who really need your support.
I follow now intensive the Ask for help Thread. Its a good thing and its a big part (most posts and Views) of the Forum. The problem is that you cant find a specific thing you want. (Google search mostly picks entries from the old forum what completely messed up any focused search :headwall: )
I think there are many reasons why this thread got many many entries what are [b]50 %[/b] could be answered if the user would take a look in the documentation/Tutorial/faq. [b] 25% [/b]results of a not really beginner friendly Tutorial added with crazy order inside the Documentation. But i try to fix this and a HowTo is atm under construction 8-) . Thats my opinion. But the messed up Thread confirm me in this.
[b]20 %[/b] are "I am Lazy and i want a ready solution" :crazy: or user who cant use the Forumsearch within the right options. ohh yeah, doubleposts for the win. No it isnt :evil:
[b]5%[/b] are really interesting and helpfully topics. But how to locate them. Right, just open a new Topic. :dance: So they get lost in the Haystack. ....
But lets take a look at some search Results.
I leave the search settings as standard. Cause on this way the most user go this way.
After the Slash only in Topic
8453 matches: msgBox / 37 matches: MsgBox :o
7330 matches: Loop / 209 matches: loop
6451 matches: Window / 335 matches: Window :!:
4314 matches: click / 175 matches: click
3393 matches: open / 71 matches: open
2040 matches: move / 50 matches: move
3980 matches: hotkey / 244 matches: hotkey :!:
3575 matches: Mouse / 249 matches: Mouse :!:
2577 matches: question / 111 matches: question :!:
1880 matches: keyboard /110 matches: keyboard :!:
1328 matches: label / 35 matches: label
5969 matches: problem :mrgreen: / 207 matches: problem :bravo:
Sure you have a problem. Otherwise they would post nothing there :headwall:
just some examples. We know how get a data structure of these things. Especially for the helpthread. but thats not the topic here. I think you got an idea what i want to show here.
[b]Why to restructure now the Help Thread ?[/b]
To help everyone to find Topics you want to search.
Prevent of DoublePosts (Solved questions).
[b][i]Get more active people / active Threads. And this i really one of the things that really could bring the forum into another level. Every one got other knowledges or experience with other Languages.[/i][/b]
In the optimal case the nooby get a solution --> from a beginner.
The beginner --> from the advanced user.
The advanced --> from the Experienced
The Experience --> from the HardCore super Swaggy Coders / admins /mods ... :mrgreen:
Sometimes i see answers on a simple question that offers a high end solution. Thats ok. But it doesnt help. Cause the beginner dont know to handle object/arrays whatever.
Create now subcategories for different level of Code experience. Very difficult. But maybe interlace the tread into each other. The mods could handle the the movement into the subs.
Main-Thread-Help (nooby-sort out area) - 15 days
Sub - Beginner (no arrays/no object/no com, ahk only , easy functions) - 30 days
Sub - Advanced (ahk only, advanced functions, library based ) - 90 days or more ?
Sub - experienced (other languages (c++,MC,java?,html,..) - no limit
just some thoughts.
Each Thread should get some settings if the topics timeout if they are inactive. ( i know you can do this settings for each topic) So the nooby section clear out itself. The mods got 15 days to answer or get it into the right subsection. This is really important. Maybe here some things gone lost. But i think the pros are better instead of feeding the haystack.
In the end every serious question should be end in a solution on 2 ways.
1.) There is a Explicit answer to the Question what can found in the Documentation or it exist a Solution inside the Scriptsection. --> Topic Close
2. ) There is a Solution integrate into a useful Script. Move into Scriptsection with PreTag. [Solved] Why leave inside the help section. There is no reason.
In the end. Sure it need some time to do it. But in the End it result of a better Forum/Community, cause it catches the user on the level they are atm. A last into a Faster coding process , cause you find what you need. More time for the mods, cause they can help the people who really need your support.