- Re. OT:
theres no problem with you not understanding this and trying to learn. that's good.
- Somewhat patronising.
but, in the other thread, you were all critical of github and pullrequests
- The use of 'you were all' is somewhat childish/disrespectful. If you are/were still in high school however, I might be more understanding.
and how all the development and discussion was taking place "behind your back" so to speak.
- *I* knew what was taking place.
- AHK forum members are more likely to check the AHK forums regularly than the GitHub pull request section. Yes or no?
- Does it matter? Yes or no?
- Are the AHK forums better suited to discussions and finding/formatting/editing posts. Yes or no?
- You started a thread complaining about the speed of AHK v2 development. If things are discussed on GitHub, implemented, then re-discussed when announced on the AHK forums, then immediately un-implemented, then re-discussed, and re-implemented in a different way, it takes longer.
the point i'm trying to make is, when you don't even understand something, you are not in the place to be making claims or demands about when and where discussion should be taking place.
- Again being as disrespectful as possible, although subtly, so that people who are not the main recipient of the message might not find it so immediately distasteful.
- You should respect me and others enough to know that, while we don't claim to know everything about a subject, we research it to a certain extent. The points you have made about GitHub in this thread coincide precisely with what I already knew.
- Is it not obvious to you, that the point of whether things are primarily discussed on the AHK forums or on the GitHub forums has precisely nothing to do with the specifics of how GitHub works.
you should be coming from an open mindset of "hey i notice some development is going on over at github, what is all that about?" (like the mindset you've taken with this thread), rather than the mindset of "i dont like this so it shouldn't be done this way"
- OK, a point that is almost reasonable, if a little patronising.
- The main problem with it is this. My post did come with an open mindset. You either interpreted a tone in it that wasn't there, or chose to. And what's more, let's assume that your interpretation was right, your approach was wrong.
- If I see a tone in someone's post that I don't like, I respond according to the best possible interpretation of that post. I focus on anything valid or valuable in the post, and answer in response to the facts. I also try not to answer in a way that will antagonise the person, and I try to not cause further friction.
- If a post is very new, I might give them some time to reflect on it, to possibly tone it down a bit. I also deliberately do not quote such posts, because this gives them a chance to amend it. I might message them privately if I felt that by changing their message they might avoid some friction.
- Unlike you I do not immediately quote the post and start going on the offensive.
- If I see an argument is going on, I don't take one side, but I try to give both people maximum credit.
- Your approach to posts seems to be this: 'As long as I don't swear, it's OK.'
- You are regularly openly or subtly disrespectful and confrontational towards people in a way that you must know is unhelpful.
- Also, you childishly use phrases like 'lol' and other such constructions. While at the same time appearing to believe that you can talk down to other people, as if they are a child. A bizarre contradiction.
- I don't mind people that only write in lower case or miss out punctuation marks, but it doesn't help during serious conversations, where you are criticising other people.
- It also doesn't help to spam a potentially useful thread 8 times, and insist that you are entitled to do so.
- At present, you are in a very poor position to criticise anyone else.
- The main point is that if people give other people the benefit of the doubt, this leads to less friction and more productive conversations.
- I hope that this post will give you pause for thought. At the moment, past and present on this forum, I count only 2 people whose posts I deem to be regularly unacceptable, and a 3rd person who is just a little misguided in misreading posts.
- Perhaps you'll try and turn all of this around onto me. But that would just amplify the impression that you tend to make things personal. I had no intention to reprimand you here, but it's the third thread, and tenth post in recent weeks where you have gone offtopic on one of my threads, making petty criticisms of me.
- The measure of you will be seen if in your response to me, you would seek to find a parting comment that wouldn't antagonise me, and that would leave everything in a peaceful state that all could be happy with. Or contrarily would your response give the appearance of wanting to turn yet another perfectly acceptable perfectly viable thread into a free-for-all. Also, if you did decide to write a long offtopic response, would you have the courtesy to use a spoiler like I have done.
- The AutoHotkey forums are famed for their friendly ethos. The 2 people I mentioned earlier go against that trend. It's better to just ignore what you'd like to say, and just try to be nice.