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[solved] TrayTip not working anymore with Win 10 (1903)

05 Jul 2019, 13:31

I updated to Win 10 version 1903.
My script does not work anymore.

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F1:: TrayTip, Title, Text, 2
What should I do? report? wait for next windows update?
Maybe someone can confirm?
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Re: TrayTip not working anymore with Win 10 (1903)

05 Jul 2019, 13:47

Heard this before, although I haven't encountered it myself, so far.
Try: https://www.autohotkey.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=44395#p263307

I think there are more threads about this problem on the forum, if this doesn't work.
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Re: TrayTip not working anymore with Win 10 (1903)

05 Jul 2019, 13:55

Hi wolf,
Works fine here on W10 Pro 64-bit v1903 with AHK 1.1.30.03 U32, although it shows it as a toast notification (as the TrayTip doc says it may):

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Regards, Joe
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Re: TrayTip not working anymore with Win 10 (1903)

05 Jul 2019, 14:01

@gregsterThx for your feedback.
I admit, I'm not yet used to Win 10, I might never get used to Win 10. :(
Is this where I should look? Confusion lies in terms Icons in notification area and Icons on Taskbar

If I look at the correct settings, The following settings are what I found:
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Re: TrayTip not working anymore with Win 10 (1903)

05 Jul 2019, 14:04

@JoeWinograd Thx for feedback, I confirm, The problem lies: AHK x64 does not work, AHK x32 does work.
further testing: AHK Basic still works.

Edit: all those "working/not working" only with regards to TrayTip on Win 10 (1903)
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Re: TrayTip not working anymore with Win 10 (1903)

05 Jul 2019, 14:10

Not really sure, because I didn't have the problem, but I would rather look for the corresponding settings of this - 'Notifications and Actions' ?? (sorry, I run the german Win10):
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But on my Win10, AHK doesn't even appear in these settings. So I am not sure if this is the right place.
But it always shows ballon notifications, when I use the Traytip command.

btw, I use 64 bit AHK and Windows.
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Re: TrayTip not working anymore with Win 10 (1903)

05 Jul 2019, 14:16

@ gregsterThx for picture, I found this settings:
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sorry to fill the forum with pics, but this very useful right now, good pics say more than 1000 words. :)
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Re: TrayTip not working anymore with Win 10 (1903)

05 Jul 2019, 14:29

I accepted JoeWinograd's answer for my problem, I just use U32 version for when I need to use TrayTip.

New question: is this worth reporting?
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Re: TrayTip not working anymore with Win 10 (1903)

05 Jul 2019, 14:34

New question: is this worth reporting?
I think so. Sounds like a bug in AHK U64. Regards, Joe
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Re: TrayTip not working anymore with Win 10 (1903)

05 Jul 2019, 14:36

Well, I have no problems with AHK 64 bit - it rather seems like a quirk/problem of some Win10 installations - and I think Lexikos is already aware of it (at least on older Win10 versions).
Not sure if this might be a new problem 🤷‍♂️
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Re: TrayTip not working anymore with Win 10 (1903)

05 Jul 2019, 14:46

@ JoeWinograd Thx, I think so too. I will wait for 24 hrs, in case someone else comes up with a different (better) explanation, before I post a bug report.

@ gregster Thx, I am not sure what Lexikos is doing with bug reports, I want to contribute when I find a bug. So far, only one of two bugs I reported got fixed, the other got ignored. I like the fix better, But I can easily live with reports being ignored. Maybe Lexikos right now needs to collect them and will deal them properly when the time comes. I don't know.

Edit: may that be the year 2525, or later, I am patient ...
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Re: TrayTip not working anymore with Win 10 (1903)

05 Jul 2019, 14:59

@ gregster Sorry, I must have overlooked, did you say AHK x64 works on Win 10 (1903) for you? All within the current context, of course.
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Re: TrayTip not working anymore with Win 10 (1903)  Topic is solved

05 Jul 2019, 16:59

Hi wolf,
Sorry for the delayed response...was afk for a while. I use AHK U32 on all my systems, which is why my initial post had that. But I just tested U64 on the W10/v1903 system by running the U64 EXE explicitly, and it worked, too...got the same toast notification as with U32. So, I'm thinking that there's something else going on with your particular system, not all v1903 systems. Regards, Joe
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Re: TrayTip not working anymore with Win 10 (1903)

05 Jul 2019, 17:18

Joe, Thank you very very much for your time to double check. :thumbup:

I will not post a bug report for my failure to set up Win 10.

Your (intentional or otherwise) answer still is the best solution for my problem.

You wouldn't know where to look for the settings, by chance?
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Re: TrayTip not working anymore with Win 10 (1903)

05 Jul 2019, 17:59

I don't know what settings would affect that. I find it really strange that it works for you with U32 and not U64. Are you running it with the AHK source code or a compiled EXE? In any case, I suggest trying the source code script by explicitly running the 32-bit and 64-bit AHK...in other words, something like:

c:\Program Files\AutoHotkey\AutoHotkeyU32.exe c:\temp\TrayTipTest.ahk

and

c:\Program Files\AutoHotkey\AutoHotkeyU64.exe c:\temp\TrayTipTest.ahk

What happens with those?
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Re: TrayTip not working anymore with Win 10 (1903)

05 Jul 2019, 18:07

wolf_II wrote:
05 Jul 2019, 14:59
@ gregster Sorry, I must have overlooked, did you say AHK x64 works on Win 10 (1903) for you? All within the current context, of course.
Yes, this is correct.

I would still assume that the 'Notifications & Actions' settings should be the right ones. I was now able to de-activate and re-activate AHK notifications via these exact settings. I was now able to make AHK show up there...

Lexikos also mentioned a registry key here that might be responsible, if the traytip/ballon notification is not showing - but I don't know how (or by which program) that registry key might have been created... https://www.autohotkey.com/boards/viewtopic.php?t=7775#p63507 But why not check...?!?
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Re: TrayTip not working anymore with Win 10 (1903)

05 Jul 2019, 18:14

Joe, I find it strange as well to find that AHK x64 behaves oddly on my setup.
If I add the fact, that I found before and I remember now, I had to follow some tweaks from the Internet, to get *.hta files to work on my system, maybe there is some trouble coming from "outside", my main suspect is now the only non-build-in classicShell extension. I will try to un-install and see.

Also, I will run first compiled versions of the test-script, AHK-basic, AHK ANSI, AHK U32 and AHK U64.
I have so far only tested with plain scripts. Good tip, thx

I will report back, I may decide to re-install Win 10 from CD, if I can find it.
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Re: TrayTip not working anymore with Win 10 (1903)

05 Jul 2019, 18:16

You should probably also check the Focus Assist feature that is visible in the settings picture you posted (crescent moon symbol). In german it has the more meaningful name "Benachrichtigungsassistent" (notification assistant) and allows to block notifications during night hours and so on, if I understand correctly. If that's activated at the moment... well...
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Re: TrayTip not working anymore with Win 10 (1903)

05 Jul 2019, 18:19

gregster, Thx, for double-telling me, You remember the *.hta issue, don't you?
Those that worked for You, and not for me, until I followed some guide. Could there be a coincidence?
No, I will find out for myself, but what's your intuition? Anyway, I got to start testing with un-installing the prime suspect.

oops, posts crossed, Thanks for the next hint.

BTW, I am able to change Language and I will for testing
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Re: TrayTip not working anymore with Win 10 (1903)

05 Jul 2019, 18:30

wolf_II wrote:
05 Jul 2019, 18:19
gregster, Thx, for double-telling me, You remember the *.hta issue, don't you?
Those that worked for You, and not for me, until I followed some guide. Could there be a coincidence?
Oh yeah, now that you mention it. But this traytip/balloon notification problem on Win10 is bubbling up regularly, since years, for a number of users. It's seems rather common... that doesn't mean that it is getting any clearer for me :) But I am probably just lucky that I am not affected ;)

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